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"JPlay is a hoax" say JRiver

Given that JPlay has a free trial version.

Try it, if it sounds better to you, sorted.

If not, ditch it, simple.

You can also try Fidelizer, I tried it last night.

One of the improvements in my system came from moving to Win. 8 from Win. 7 in a new laptop - both Bit Perfect according to MDAC.
as Win. 7 was Bit Perfect I wasn't expecting any difference.
All with JRiver MC.
 
One of the things I find very fascinating about digital audio is the belief that faster machines make any difference to audio playback, when basically the technology to replay audio is so very light compared to most activities the CPUs are designed for.

As a reference point, a long time ago I used to run Logic Audio on a Mac IIcx, and get 4 channels of audio playback. The Mac IIcx was a 68030 based processor running at 16Mhz, so somewhere around 4 Mips of processing. My machine had 8Mb of RAM and I used a specialist 500Mb SCSI AV drive for audio recording/playback that was specifically detuned so that it produced less throughput, but very consistent latency off disk. I seem to remember something around 1Mb/sec was a good throughput, with the SCSI interface saturating around 1.5Mb/sec. The audio chain included some signal processing, say, some EQ and maybe a very light reverb. This system was commonly used in small studios/home setups, and there are plenty of commercial recording that started life this way.

Around the same time, a state of the art (20k+) audio recording setup would have been based on ProTools. ProTools used multiple motorola 56k processors, running at 100MHz each. So by comparison a ProTools rig would have 4 DSP chips, so around 400Mips of processing power, 100x what I was getting on the native hardware! With suitable audio interfaces and multiple SCSI hard disks, you could record and playback 32 channels of audio whilst also applying EQ and other insert effects on each channel.

Wind forward 25 years, and i'm typing this on a MacBook that has a 4 core i7 processor running at 2.6Ghz. Each core can do an instruction per clock cycle, so call it 10 billion instructions per second for the processor. I think the SSD can pull around 250Mb/sec into memory. I've got 8Gb of ram.

So compared to my Mac IIcx, my current machine has 2,500x the CPU power, 1,000x the memory, and 250x the disk throughput. I was able to get 4 channels of uncompressed audio off the original machine without stuttering or dropouts. Given this perspective, this is why I feel that there aren't many problems to be solved getting quality audio out of a computer ;-)

Cesare
 
Isn't it more about noise reaching the dac, probably its ground plane? This is what Swenson writes about eloquently nowadays.
 
20 years ago computer audio (especially over USB) was a very silent past time. I don't care anyway. Find the Swenson verbage and discuss with him.
 
20 years ago computer audio (especially over USB) was a very silent past time. I don't care anyway. Find the Swenson verbage and discuss with him.

Yea, Clive, 20 years ago analogue audio was very aware of the noise aspect of audio - pity digital audio became too blinded by the relative noise robustness of digital & ignored the analogue side of D/A? It's this oversight that is being exposed now & it's this oversight that makes it difficult to fix the legacy of this thinking
 
10 pages on whether or not JPlay sounds better than other players, well that's up to the listener isn't it ? Personally I have been using JPlay for a few years and was convinced it was a good sounding player. Now I'm using Lightning DS with Auralic equipment which is way better than my previous digital replay. It's all a matter of opinion, who are we to question anybody?
 
10 pages on whether or not JPlay sounds better than other players, well that's up to the listener isn't it ? Personally I have been using JPlay for a few years and was convinced it was a good sounding player. Now I'm using Lightning DS with Auralic equipment which is way better than my previous digital replay. It's all a matter of opinion, who are we to question anybody?

Well, it's a matter of opinion as to whether it's a matter of opinion ;-)
 


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