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Jeremy Deller - Everybody in the Place (BBC4)

Discussion in 'music' started by eastone, Aug 3, 2019.

  1. eastone

    eastone pfm Member

  2. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    Thanks for the heads up, I’d not spotted it. Just watched it now, superb stuff.
     
  3. Rug Doc

    Rug Doc pfm Member

    Wow that was superb. My heart sank when he asked “Who goes to the country” and every hand stayed firmly planted on their desks. :(
     
  4. eastone

    eastone pfm Member

    Yes. I thought they were very insightful about London’s separation from England at large though.

    I particularly liked that Deller was frank about the transition of acid house from a black subculture into a whiter mainstream. I don’t recall that being dealt with in the recent BBC survey of house and rave.
     
  5. kjb

    kjb pfm Member

    Thanks for the heads up on this.

    So many fascinating moments, not least the girl is talking about going to Oxford, where I live, and feeling like an outsider and the comments about this all being pre social media.

    I was in my 20s at the time, already a parent and a teacher, and only knew about this from tv. Interesting he doesn’t reference Live Aid which, in retrospect, was pivotal event for the establishment culture of that time and the moment where mainstream and commercial culture took ownership of protest.

    Kevin
     
  6. foxwelljsly

    foxwelljsly Keep Music Vile

    Fascinating documentary. Cunningly soundtracked without some of the more interminable sounds I recall from many raves. Still living with my parents in the New Forest until ‘94, almost every summer weekend was spent at these events, or looking for one. Although I knew and socialised with many figures key to the regional scene, I always felt more of an onlooker than a participant and didn’t really ‘get it’. From my perspective, the drugs were absolutely central to this movement and, much like the original summer of love, the drifting into harder drugs by many of the hardcore was key to it’s inevitable decline into criminalisation and commercialisation.
     
  7. matt j

    matt j pfm Member

    I was just slightly too young to catch this period. We had to live it all through my best mates oldest brother who was well into it, then blow me, at only 1M 30s into the vid I'm 99% sure I see him in the queue for Shelleys Laserdome in Stoke!

    We had to make do with a Global Hypercolor T shirt and bootleg tapes of Carl Cox and Mickey Finn etc.
     
  8. Dougunn

    Dougunn pfm Member

    Wow, good call, that was great!

    Does anyone know the track that was playing in the clip from Shelleys Laserdome from 52:20 on . . . I loved it!

    Doug
     
  9. Dougunn

    Dougunn pfm Member

    Scratch that, got it . . . "Sined Roza - I Don't Know What It Is"

    Blissing out in my sitting rom . . joy
     
  10. Woodface

    Woodface pfm Member

    I never really got into the rave/dance scene, probably due to be being born in Scarborough. I do feel I missed out in some ways but in others not so much.
     
  11. Big Tabs

    Big Tabs hearing problems

    I thought there were many points the lecturer raised that were inaccurate. Glad to see the programme, although it skirted around the subject of drugs, giving it a mention rather than the view that I hold that without the drugs there would have been no 'scene.' No mention of the poll tax protests, too much new age traveller pants.
    Good to see the students were aware of the London bubble, and like a previous comment, I was saddened to hear of the lack of response when venturing into the countryside was raised.

    I certainly attended basement/warehouse parties, but soon got bored of the music and attendees. Also the venues I went to got rammed, and I needed space to get my funk on. (Nottingham/Leicester/ Manchester area)
     
  12. blossomchris

    blossomchris I feel better than James Brown

    We too thought a lot had been missed too. They never even used Orbital's John Major speech excerpt track when he was gassing on about New Agers.

    Nevertheless, I liked the format and I expect there may be other ones to come in a similar style.

    Bloss
     
  13. Weekender

    Weekender pfm Member

    Of course a lot was missed: the clue's in the title...."an incomplete history..."
    And he was talking to schoolkids so had to skirt the E in the room.
    Enjoyed it.
     
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