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Is the Metropolitan Police institutionally corrupt?

Discussion in 'off topic' started by paulfromcamden, Jun 25, 2021.

  1. paulfromcamden

    paulfromcamden Baffled

    Quite possibly.

    Local residents believe that on Stanway Road, which is closed to traffic at one end, Harvey and Kyrees carried on to pass through the bollards to avoid the police – forcing officers to turn into Howell Road and onto Grand Avenue to loop around the estate.
  2. Ponty

    Ponty pfm Member

    Well yes, but that a whole other discussion!
  3. farfromthesun

    farfromthesun pfm Member

    Here's a discussion - that the fault actually lies with those amongst us voting Tory they're entire lives permitting the wilful destruction of services for children, youth clubs, declining standards in education and social care due to lack of proper funding, all idealogical dogma propped up by those who are always looking to blame someone other than those ultimately responsible, which leaves kids like these with absolutely nothing positive to do except ride around on battery powered vehicles?
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  4. Finnegan

    Finnegan pfm Member

    Officer giving evidence in the inquiry into the death of Sheku Bayoh after being restrained by officers denies allegations of racism.

    "My mum told me at the time that Alan has said he wanted to join the BNP and she had told him she would disown him if he did.

    "Alan used to make racist remarks to the Asian family that lived round the corner. He was never violent towards them but he was quite vocal.

    "If they passed by him he would make racist comments towards them. I don't know anything else about him joining the BNP."
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  5. Andrew C!

    Andrew C! Been around a while....

    I gave no impression of anything at all. I merely invited comment.
  6. Nick_G

    Nick_G pfm Member

    Then it would have been better without the ';)' smiley at the end of it, as that loads the response. It almost looks like it's inviting heated debate at worst, and at best, it's ambiguous.
  7. Rodrat

    Rodrat pfm Member

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  8. sq225917

    sq225917 Bit of this, bit of that

    15, I thought they were younger. Notice how the recent pics are less flattering? I'd suggest that indicates a turn in the media narrative, incoming....
  9. Seanm

    Seanm pfm Member

    Guess I was confused by the winky face, the derogatory reference to armchair experts and the commentary by the retired cop, who you presumably consider an expert, and who reckons the footage exonerates the police.
  10. Andrew C!

    Andrew C! Been around a while....

    On reflection you are quite right. Apologies, and please ignore.

    You are quite correct. On reflection I should not have posted it. Apologies, and please ignore. I did previously say I had not listened to the audio. But acknowledge or ignore as you wish.
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  11. droodzilla

    droodzilla pfm Member

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  12. droodzilla

    droodzilla pfm Member

    Quite possibly. But that doesn't mean the reality of what happened has changed.
  13. Finnegan

    Finnegan pfm Member

  14. Ginger

    Ginger pfm Member

  15. Andrew C!

    Andrew C! Been around a while....

    Probably worthy of a separate thread. BBC link to the same release as @Ginger posted above. Now, this topic is something I do know a fair amount about, and it will be interesting to see what other contributors on here think to this decision.

    (No sarcasm or irony, tho, as I was pulled up for that recently).
  16. Ginger

    Ginger pfm Member

    I expect the regular contributors in this thread will be very supportive of the commissioner’s directive.
  17. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    Disgraceful! Imagine if they'd said the same about picket lines, demonstrations etc and put their priorities where people want them...
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  18. ks.234

    ks.234 Half way to Infinity

    The issue with mental health is a lack of investment in our Care system. As ever we are suffering from decades of political choice based on the economic ideology that spending is a bad idea.
  19. Sue Pertwee-Tyr

    Sue Pertwee-Tyr neither here nor there

    Quite a politically charged decision, I think. It’ll be very interesting to see how this plays out. If it brings things to a head and mental health provision improves as a result, the short term pain may be worth it.
  20. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    It's not a grown up process. They're freeing up time to stop and search, strip search kids, police protest etc etc with the big finger of the law to those in need. If they only want to do part of their jobs (unacceptable in an an employment contract, for example) then cut their funding to allocate elsewhere. There's already been 20 thousand extra officers recruited (and unvetted.)

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