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Hypothetical Naim system replacement

Discussion in 'audio' started by tiggers, May 2, 2019.

  1. Woodface

    Woodface pfm Member

    The marketing blurb for Vitus is utterly terrible & it would completely put me off, sounds like a car magazine from the 80s. At least the naim marketing from the era had a bit of humour.
  2. SteveH

    SteveH pfm Member

    Keith is right: A pair of Kii Threes.
    I auditioned them not really expecting to be seriously interested; just to see what the hype was all about. Once I'd heard them, I couldn't do without them and realised quickly that, being active, I could get rid of all the Naim stuff and not have amps cluttering the place up as they have for teh last 40 years. My descision wasn't driven by "downsizing" or "de-cluttering" however. It was purely audio - I heard far, far more with the Kiis. Their simplicity is a bonus AFAIAC. Front end is a simple RPi3 with Digione. I guess I'll upgrade it at some point but everytime I listen to it, I can't imagine anything sounding much better. And the TV is great through them as well.

    Having said that, I went to a dem a few months back with my brother-in-law who is a big Naim fan; he was looking for - guess what? - another Naim PSU with which to "upgrade" (to add to the several he has already). That system sounder better than mine at home but we then totted up the damage: Over 60K...
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  3. monya

    monya pfm Member

    I’m not familiar with Naim nomenclature other than wary of the continuous marketing hype of never ending upgrades and beefy power supplies promising greater audio nirvana.
    Prefer manufacturers that build something properly in the first instance and stick with it for at least 5 years although that may reduce sales to those who must have latest so called upgrade.
    The OP may in the long term benefit from jumping off the hamster wheel.
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  4. iansr

    iansr pfm Member

    A good suggestion. If I was starting afresh I’d certainly go for active speakers, possibly the Dutch and Dutch 8c or if DSP puts you off then the new ELAC actives designed by Andrew Jones which use an analogue crossover.

    Naim doesn’t make hi fi gear, it sells hype. For far less money you can get something that actually makes music.
  5. Purité Audio

    Purité Audio Trade: Purite Audio

    I believe you would have to hear the Naim £60k system and the Kiis together in he same room and at the same time to have a really valid opinion of their relative merit.
  6. L&N republican

    L&N republican pfm Member

    Why not try something competely diferent like Quad esl's...I done that after 30years of linn and naim regrets
    Frankiesays likes this.
  7. Stemcor

    Stemcor I should be listening to music

    L&N makes a very good point. My turntable is 45 years old and I’m not in a hurry to replace it. In fact I bought a second as a spare in case the first one has a fatal failure (it’s also an excuse for a small second system at some point in the future....).

    What I am really saying is don’t overlook vintage equipment. You never know until you listen.......
  8. Woodface

    Woodface pfm Member

    They just have an upgrade path, it is not 'marketing hype'. Most hifi companies have a range which you can upgrade through. You may or may not like the naim sound & that is entirely down to personal taste.
  9. Suffolk Tony

    Suffolk Tony Aim low, achieve your goals, avoid disappointment.

    Just the usual anti-Naim nonsense we have to suffer on Naim threads Mr Woodface, best to just ignore it.
    Woodface and Old Shatterhand like this.
  10. owl

    owl pfm Member

    At the mo it seems like all system change or rebuild questions result in the same answer - active speakers! I tried ATC 40 actives and whilst they sounded effortless at high volumes, they weren't really my cup of tea esp at low volume.
  11. Enfield boy

    Enfield boy pfm Member

    Naim support their old gear (at least the non computer based stuff) and there are good independents who can repair it too. They offer good px for upgrades and there is a thriving used market.
    Certainly a contributing factor helping me enjoy music from my black boxes.
    Woodface likes this.
  12. Woodface

    Woodface pfm Member

    I have very vague plans to move away from a whole naim system to incorporate ATC speakers & possibly pre-amp.
  13. tiggers

    tiggers pfm Member

    Thanks for all the replies people, some very interesting points raised. Will be interesting to hear some of the newer gear over time. It'll have to be astonishing to prise me away form the Olive sound though.....
  14. Strictly Stereo

    Strictly Stereo Trade: Strictly Stereo

    Not all active designs are like that. I have the Dutch & Dutch 8c here. They can be enjoyed at low levels too.
  15. Strictly Stereo

    Strictly Stereo Trade: Strictly Stereo

    Please take up Andrew C’s offer. If you enjoy that, give me a call and I will provide you with a home demo like the one he had. If you prefer your Naim system, I won’t be offended, but I expect you’ll find something to like about this set.
    Andrew C! likes this.
  16. Enfield boy

    Enfield boy pfm Member

    As others have said it might be worth listening to some classic gear like Redford, Leak or Sugden paired with appropriate speakers.
    I have very fond memories off Leak S20 (with point one pre?). Something like this fronted by good digital or a suitable tt(plus stepup?) might be enjoyable.

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