JensenHealey
pfm Member
Does not explain the theory of "Mass Storage" effect. Sorry. Find a better explanation. It is utter crap
How much difference could a simple Banana plug make?
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Rosewind
Lost in Translation
Interesting thread. Mass storage effect ..sounds like my bowels, you would not believe the mass I can store in them. Or are we speaking of metal batteries, fly wheels, or another hitherto unknown type of (unwanted or wanted) storage of energy?
OOPS: forgot to ask the OP: is this a plug for the banana plug in question?
OOPS: forgot to ask the OP: is this a plug for the banana plug in question?
Hempknight
pfm Member
Maybe it does, most of them are made from brass, which has a much lower conductivity than copper, and a higher resistance. Maybe having to conduct through an alloy of different metals has a storage effect ?
That ain't no proof, it's advertising pseudo-science!
No.
Craig B
Re:trophile
You do realize that your are helping to plug the plug for the new plug with that question, don't you?
agnes
Agnes
I cannot believe this:
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- to further dynamically enhance electron flow in the Signal conductor.
- to further protect the Signal from capacitive, inductive, EMF, EF, EFI, RF, static charges, and other effects.
- to further facilitate a smooth uninterrupted signal flow from the amplifier to the speakers, effectively isolating and allowing them to perform their task without interference."
Unfortunately it is not a joke. Some folk here don't get: if it smells like BS, it probably is BS.
awkwardbydesign
Officially Awesome
I didn't make any claims for the veracity of the theory, I just told you how easy it was to find it. What you make of it is up to you. Don't try to put words into my mouth.
narabdela
who?
Brilliant! Getting Ken Dodd to do their advertising copy was a stroke of pure genius!
I'm aware of the claims (Chord also stated the same). I was hoping for some evidence that you state is easy to find. I not trying to put words in your mouth at all.
awkwardbydesign
Officially Awesome
And that is why I won't use that type of "cage" plug. In fact some of them are steel too.
I've nothing against Z plugs - I use stackable ones at work. Their contact area is far better than than those worn & corroded bananas shown in the video. Multimeters are pretty poor at measuring resistance under an Ohm unless they use sense terminals (4 wire) that will give repeatable readings.
The issue is the claim that solid conductors somehow are worse by virtue of some sort of storage mechanism. One could design hollow plugs with a low contact surface that would also measure poorly. The video highlights the need for decently designed plugs - Z plugs are good but not for the reasons stated by WBT & Chord. If you plug poor quality bananas into stackable Z plugs, you aren't going to gain anything apart from perhaps cleaning the contact surfaces by the process of removing then refitting them.
davidsrsb
pfm Member
You should see how thick the metal is on a 7/16 DIN RF connector. Fortunately RF electrons follow different rules of physics to HiFi electrons or you phone wouldn't work
droodzilla
pfm Member
the what what?
Jonathan
pfm Member
and yet - the 'control' he was using (the stock leads) were giving quite a different (and more reliable) result.
I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with the design (not what he was criticising) so much as the actual execution and quality ... like you say
i posted this solely in response to the original question "how much difference can a banana plug make?" - so apparently a fair bit.
venton
pfm Member
I got some gold headphone jacks from China. They were shockingly bad, I wouldn't be surprised if they were spray painted with gold paint and varnished. Almost didn't conduct the signal.