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Did you take careers advice from Nick Clegg?
How many think Corbyn will get in in Islington next election?
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Did you take careers advice from Nick Clegg?
MikeMA
pfm Member
That's the problem, whether to vote for the sh*t, sh*ttier or sh*ttiest option. What a choice.
Tony L
Administrator
The Lib Dems are weak and damaged at present, but Brexit is clearly the largest and most divisive issue facing the country and they are on the right side of the argument, Corbyn on the wrong. As such, yes, Labour will lose a substantial number of votes in this direction (and to Green, SNP and Plaid Cymru). Given Corbyn’s Labour is failing to make any headway against even the worst Tory government in UK history I’d have hoped this penny would have dropped by now!
Swamp Thing
Remainiac Terrorist
When all this is in the history books, I wonder what it will say became of all the players. The equivalent of "despite chart success and a cocaine lifestyle for several years, Dave the drummer now runs a basket weaving collective just outside Hereford. He also recuses hedgehogs."
Corbyn will I think be admitted to a mental institution where he is mostly lucid but will sometimes vehemently denounce things seemingly at random as being "counter-revolutionary" and occasionally require chemical restraints.
Rees-Moog I hope will suffer the same fate as his ideologue twin Benito Mussolini, but the service station be somewhere less picturesque than Lake Como. Hemel Hempstead perhaps.
May burnt alive in her ministerial car by the post-Brexit starving mob, who also rip Boris limb from limb. Davis, defenestration. Banks, firing squad - treason, along with Dacre prior to us re-joining the EU.
Anyone else got any fantasy outcomes for the instigators of this farce?
Corbyn will I think be admitted to a mental institution where he is mostly lucid but will sometimes vehemently denounce things seemingly at random as being "counter-revolutionary" and occasionally require chemical restraints.
Rees-Moog I hope will suffer the same fate as his ideologue twin Benito Mussolini, but the service station be somewhere less picturesque than Lake Como. Hemel Hempstead perhaps.
May burnt alive in her ministerial car by the post-Brexit starving mob, who also rip Boris limb from limb. Davis, defenestration. Banks, firing squad - treason, along with Dacre prior to us re-joining the EU.
Anyone else got any fantasy outcomes for the instigators of this farce?
TheDecameron
Unicorns fart glitter.
Are you suggesting he believes the hedgehog to be unable to discharge its duties owing to a conflict of interest? In any event, the hedgehog would have to recuse itself, surely.
kendo
Prussian bot
ff1d1l
pfm Member
Oh dear. A flawed referendum with Russian money funnelled through the lovely Aaron, that shouldn't have been held, which was only advisory, which should have required a supermajority, with overseas British nationals excluded, where the best case outcome will damage Britain in all sorts of ways for decades...and democracy apparently stops after it? Because some question the validity of the result?
I'd say if there isn't another ref democracy has stopped.
I see you are using the pejorative "remainiacs"?
Presumably no objection then to my referring to leave voters pejoratively? Brexshitters maybe?
Marchbanks
Hat and Beard member
My judicious use of the ignore facility has led to a wonderfully surreal last couple of pages. I was particularly intrigued by the reference to penis size which came out of nowhere. I’ll rephrase that, it just seemed to pop up. No, that won’t do either...
suzywong
Wot, no electrons?
“Sticks out a mile”, perhaps?
Cav
pfm Member
If you were the Prime Minister would you ignore the referendum result and tell the electorate that you would not implement their will?
If you were Leader of the Opposition would you tell your electorate, many of whom voted to leave, that they were mistaken or so stupid they did not understand what they were voting for?
In either case, do you think you would have either job for long?
Tony L
Administrator
In either situation I’d have done the right thing, admitted the referendum was fraudulent (criminally so) and sought to overturn it. No one should be allowed to profit through electoral fraud. To be honest I’m sufficiently bright that I’d have set a meaningful threshold for such major constitutional change right from the off, say 65% (assuming I’d have ever agreed to such a dumb binary decision process for a complex multi-faceted issue in the first place, which I wouldn’t have!). Balancing a whole nation’s future on an entirely corrupt 50/50 poll was only ever insanity and should only ever be viewed as such. It was a Tory election stunt, it went wrong, and we should all seek to undo it. To pander/grovel to such an act of right-wing self-immolation the way Corbyn’s clown troupe are doing at present is truly pathetic. They are quite simply wrong and most people can see that clearly.
Swamp Thing
Remainiac Terrorist
OK, we both know I meant to type "rescues", but given it was a short piece of speculative fiction, I now attest that Dave believes that modern hedgehogs are a pale imitation of their nobles ancestors, urbanised by access to cows milk and overly warm human habitat. He proselytises for the introduction of the ancient line of hedgehogs, who were the familiars of the great druidic warrior-bards of the ancient Britons.
Dave voted leave.
Darmok
pfm Member
barney10
4h ago
While Brexit means over 17 million things to those who have brought us close to ruin the true agenda the mobilisers of this coup will soon become clear. Brexit for them is a philosophy, an ideology borne out of the fears of the ruling classes of fairness, equality and redistribution of wealth. The real movers an d shakers of Brexit, the hard right from the spheres of politics, the media, the wealthy corporatist, the aristocracy, the gamblers in the City, the off-shore tax avoiders etc., have been worried about the rise of socialism since the Second World War. Everything prefixed by "public" or "social" is, for them, evidence of a threat to their privileged positions, they watched darkly, as Rees-Mogg has done as their hereditary certainties became vulnerable to egalitarian politics brought about by the Attlee government and the freedoms demanded by the liberal thinkers of the sixties by feminists and radicals. They saw that their salvation lay in authoritarian control of the masses. Anything that represented a more equal society would have to go, hence the assault on social services, social security, social care, social housing, every social or public l institution, libraries, museums, playing fields, public conveniences, public protections such as youth clubs, children's centres, centres for the aged, the infirm, the disabled, those with mental health problems - I've lost count of the places I once volunteered at which are now gone). For the same motives they have taken the taken the axe to police officers, fire officers (and their stations, as the developers hover), the NHS, schools, public roads, public transport and the very public itself if it gets in the way of their mission.
The EU became the monster, a monolith of consensus and and, for them, inconvenient regulations which derail their free-market driven ambition for total power. Brexit is a movement, fascist at it's core, relying on the enthusiasm of the ignorant masses to pursue nebulous concepts of power and control, even though these enablers know that they themselves will not be wielding this power but have irresponsibly conferred it onto those conniving idiots and charlatans who are reaping their harvest and who hardly bother to disguise their mendacity any more.
Brexit is a right-wing coup from which nobody is safe when the next administration proves to be the hardest right we've ever witnessed in this country.
Source > https://discussion.theguardian.com/comment-permalink/125707063
This is what Corbyn should be shouting about, imv.
4h ago
While Brexit means over 17 million things to those who have brought us close to ruin the true agenda the mobilisers of this coup will soon become clear. Brexit for them is a philosophy, an ideology borne out of the fears of the ruling classes of fairness, equality and redistribution of wealth. The real movers an d shakers of Brexit, the hard right from the spheres of politics, the media, the wealthy corporatist, the aristocracy, the gamblers in the City, the off-shore tax avoiders etc., have been worried about the rise of socialism since the Second World War. Everything prefixed by "public" or "social" is, for them, evidence of a threat to their privileged positions, they watched darkly, as Rees-Mogg has done as their hereditary certainties became vulnerable to egalitarian politics brought about by the Attlee government and the freedoms demanded by the liberal thinkers of the sixties by feminists and radicals. They saw that their salvation lay in authoritarian control of the masses. Anything that represented a more equal society would have to go, hence the assault on social services, social security, social care, social housing, every social or public l institution, libraries, museums, playing fields, public conveniences, public protections such as youth clubs, children's centres, centres for the aged, the infirm, the disabled, those with mental health problems - I've lost count of the places I once volunteered at which are now gone). For the same motives they have taken the taken the axe to police officers, fire officers (and their stations, as the developers hover), the NHS, schools, public roads, public transport and the very public itself if it gets in the way of their mission.
The EU became the monster, a monolith of consensus and and, for them, inconvenient regulations which derail their free-market driven ambition for total power. Brexit is a movement, fascist at it's core, relying on the enthusiasm of the ignorant masses to pursue nebulous concepts of power and control, even though these enablers know that they themselves will not be wielding this power but have irresponsibly conferred it onto those conniving idiots and charlatans who are reaping their harvest and who hardly bother to disguise their mendacity any more.
Brexit is a right-wing coup from which nobody is safe when the next administration proves to be the hardest right we've ever witnessed in this country.
Source > https://discussion.theguardian.com/comment-permalink/125707063
This is what Corbyn should be shouting about, imv.
Swamp Thing
Remainiac Terrorist
As they say in Sunnydale, "Well, duh!"
ff1d1l
pfm Member
Islington too hopefully...
Swamp Thing
Remainiac Terrorist
Model answers for a perfect 20/20
Dear people of the UK. We have a slender majority of those voted in the entirely advisory referendum who have expressed a preference for leaving the EU. However, it is likely that many of those who voted to leave have many very different ideas of exactly what that could mean. Hard Brexit, Norway, Canada - still being within the Customs Unions or without it. Each of which will have different social and economic impacts.
Also, such a slender majority is not usually considered enough to enact such radical change.
Additionally, more people may have been willing to vote to leave if they knew exactly what they were voting for.
Therefore, this government will endeavour to work with the rest of Europe to define one or two different deals that could be negotiated to show what are the implications of leaving the EU. This can then form the basis of another referendum where you will be able to vote on a definite set of conditions that we would exit on, including the advice of the Treasury and many independent influential financial institutions, on what the impact would be to the UK in both the short and long term.
I myself will be resigning because some people have photographs of me and the pig. But I assume my successor will carry this through after elections have been carried out.
I must admit I welcome the remarks of the Prime Minster. I would add that it is important to understand what the deal is. I myself am duty bound by the will of the party to campaign for Remain, but there are some opportunities in leaving for improved social policies that I would be interested in pursuing. It may be seen to be unhelpful to admit this, but I believe it would be entirely disingenuous and unbecoming of a responsible politician not to admit this.
I look forward to, in the correct manner of Her Majesties official Opposition, enabling this debate.
In the case given above, yes and yes.
Dear people of the UK. We have a slender majority of those voted in the entirely advisory referendum who have expressed a preference for leaving the EU. However, it is likely that many of those who voted to leave have many very different ideas of exactly what that could mean. Hard Brexit, Norway, Canada - still being within the Customs Unions or without it. Each of which will have different social and economic impacts.
Also, such a slender majority is not usually considered enough to enact such radical change.
Additionally, more people may have been willing to vote to leave if they knew exactly what they were voting for.
Therefore, this government will endeavour to work with the rest of Europe to define one or two different deals that could be negotiated to show what are the implications of leaving the EU. This can then form the basis of another referendum where you will be able to vote on a definite set of conditions that we would exit on, including the advice of the Treasury and many independent influential financial institutions, on what the impact would be to the UK in both the short and long term.
I myself will be resigning because some people have photographs of me and the pig. But I assume my successor will carry this through after elections have been carried out.
I must admit I welcome the remarks of the Prime Minster. I would add that it is important to understand what the deal is. I myself am duty bound by the will of the party to campaign for Remain, but there are some opportunities in leaving for improved social policies that I would be interested in pursuing. It may be seen to be unhelpful to admit this, but I believe it would be entirely disingenuous and unbecoming of a responsible politician not to admit this.
I look forward to, in the correct manner of Her Majesties official Opposition, enabling this debate.
In the case given above, yes and yes.
Mullardman
Moderately extreme...
Requires rather more subtlety and insight than demostrated by the 'Great British Electorate' last time round don't you think?
Mullardman
Moderately extreme...
That was the 'Question Before Last'. Do try to keep up..