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How many think Corbyn will get in in Islington next election?

Jim Audiomisc said:
...and which suits those in power, letting them move where they paint the lines showing the "middle of the road" ever-further to the right. Its what has led us to where we are.
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Precisely! What must be avoided at all costs is getting yet another neoliberal gov that is over friendly to The City, big business, the wealthy and which the Daily Mair will approve of! "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss"... we need to be sure we don't get fooled again! There must be no diminution of Corbyn's socialism. Wealth redistribution is the single most important policy of Corbyn's vision and I would want this retained.... but with a rather more competent leader who will fully embrace remain. In fact I would like to see a Labour policy that we will re-enter the EU, no matter how disastrous financially due to it being on EU terms, without a referendum.
 
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Didn't realise the remain vote was that strong in his own constituency; certainly explains why he's been sitting on the fence.

Classic dilemma for an MP.
 
deanf said:
Let's have a little look at this:

Labour (1997-2010) grew the eceonomy, reduce debt, class sizes, doubled the proportion of GDP to Health, introduced a minimum wage, Human Rights Act, Equality Act, diminished the difference in poverty, reduced homelessness, introduced the winter fuel payment and opened 4000 Sure Start centres.

LibDems (2010-15) facilitated austerity, cut disability benefits, introduced the bedroom tax, trebled tution fees, incresaed the regressive VAT, and charged us 5p for a carrier bag.

Now who's shite?!
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More to the point, who's shite now?
 
deanf said:
Let's have a little look at this:

Labour (1997-2010) grew the eceonomy, reduce debt, class sizes, doubled the proportion of GDP to Health, introduced a minimum wage, Human Rights Act, Equality Act, diminished the difference in poverty, reduced homelessness, introduced the winter fuel payment and opened 4000 Sure Start centres.

LibDems (2010-15) facilitated austerity, cut disability benefits, introduced the bedroom tax, trebled tution fees, incresaed the regressive VAT, and charged us 5p for a carrier bag.

Now who's shite?!
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Yebbut as we have been told numerous times here on PFM, that's not 'proper' Labour. You can't use them as a comparison now.
 
The Blair/Brown governments did a number of good things that the Tories wouldn't have done. But they still followed the same damaging lines over the economy, trusting big business/city, PFIs, allowing tax dodging by the right non-doms, and avoiding upsetting the right-wing propaganda sheets run for the benefit of those non-doms.

So yes, Blairite Labour was - in the short term - better than the Tories. But they still allowed the underlaying problems to grow into a crash that then 'justified' austerity and blame the victims... which is due to happen again. The Tories really aren't going to deal with that or protect the weak.
 
Tony L said:
Are you denying the LDs are taking seats from Labour? That is simple fact. The rest is just gossip, but certainly nothing I have had any part in making up!
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I don't follow local council elections in England and there can't have been that many since the last round of elections in 2018. But I couldn't find much on google on recent local elections. There's another round of local elections in May this year, that may give a better indications than one-off by-elections where turnout struggles to top 30% in some cases. If I was a LibDem supporter I'd be worried about this sort of commentary:
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/liberal-democrats-2018-local-elections-performance/
 
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Tony L said:
I’d so love to see him kicked out, but it would take a new party with a very credible leader to do it. I’m certain his majority will reduce substantially and Green and LD will pick up the swing, but I really can’t see Islington switching from Labour.
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You'd love to see him kicked out. Now there's a surprise. Coming from a bloke who put such faith in the ace charlatan, bullshitting conman Nick Clegg, that is truly hilarious. Your Corbyn hatred clouds everything you post. You should stick to rugs.
 
Tony L said:
The Lib Dems are weak due to poor leadership (Cable really isn’t up to it) and the stain of both Cameron and student fees, yet even so they are taking Labour council seats in recent by-elections. If they were to re-brand/merge as the rumoured new centre party with someone young, articulate and dynamic in charge (Layla Moran would be my choice) they’d likely do very well indeed. Add in people like Chuka Ummuna, Gina Miller, JK Rowling etc and I’d not bet against them winning an election.
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Yes, a centrist party is just what we need. Look what happened the last time that happened. SDP were they called. Jumped into bed with the Liberals didn't they? Green Party just a fringey waste of time.
 
Wow, ‘triple-froth’! That’s the anger of a man who knows he’s going to lose a £1k bet next election (assuming the bookies ever took it)!
 
Tony L said:
Wow, ‘triple-froth’! That’s the anger of a man who knows he’s going to lose a £1k bet next election (assuming the bookies ever took it)!
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Just do what you normally do Tony and ban me from the thread. Are you a small man by any chance?
 
I don’t know if Labour or Corbyn will get in next time but judging by the Sunday Mail front page today the Tories are obviously crapping themselves
 
timH said:
I don’t know if Labour or Corbyn will get in next time but judging by the Sunday Mail front page today the Tories are obviously crapping themselves
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The Mail on Sunday front page is just what the PFM Corbyn haters have been desperate for. Interesting to see how the PFM remainiacs are so closely aligned with the MoS.
 
HarryB said:
Just do what you normally do Tony and ban me from the thread. Are you a small man by any chance?
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You get banned from threads when you personally attack other posters. The AUP is very clear. Its a temper tantrum thing, nothing to do with politics. Unlike your former employer (The Mail On Sunday) I don’t publish such things!
 
He’ll piss it, look at past votes, it’s a Labour stronghold and the next GE he’ll very probably still be the leader of the party, why would traditional Labour voters not vote for him then?
 
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