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Hi Res - how do you know..

Discussion in 'audio' started by MBK, Apr 9, 2021.

  1. MBK

    MBK New Member

    How do you know if an album which is for sale to download in 24bit/96khz was originally produced in that resolution? I ask because there are albums old and new which can be bought in hi res but if the original recording was 16/44 for example, then what's the point and how do you stopped getting ripped off? Is there an easy way to find out?
     
  2. Vinny

    Vinny pfm Member

    Hear any difference?
     
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  3. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    There are a lot of 'scams' out there. CD masters being transferred directly to vinyl, compressed 'rubbish' being sold on CD, never mind high res issues of the same masters. I think authoritative reviews are your friend here.
     
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  4. Alastair

    Alastair pfm Member

    Hi Fi news & Music reviews tend to have some info on the recordings and if they are genuine or not. But that’s obviously a tiny subset as to what is out there.

    Sadly I think that if you are not in the industry (say producing the content with regard to master files) then it’s a case of trusting what’s out there as it’s labelled...
     
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  5. narabdela

    narabdela who?

    I do, occasionally...but then I realise that I'm concentrating on the sound rather than the music.

    Does that make sense?
     
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  6. Mr Pig

    Mr Pig ^'- -'^

    Yeah, if you can't tell from listening to it, does it matter?
     
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  7. MBK

    MBK New Member

    It does if you pay extra!
     
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  8. kensalriser

    kensalriser pfm Member

    You've nailed it: what's the point?

    16/44 has been the standard for so long I'd guess that the overwhelming majority of digital masters are in that format. If you think record companies are going to spend the money going back to original analogue masters (where they're even available) to reformat for a tiny percentage of the market, you are a very trusting person.
     
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  9. Purité Audio

    Purité Audio Trade: Purite Audio

    Spectrum analyser and determine if there is any content above 22kHz.
    Keith
     
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  10. PhilDick

    PhilDick pfm Member

    If it was an analogue recording it would be a total waste of file space to re-sample in Hi-Res anyway. 16/44 covers anything a analogue tape recorder can put out.
     
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  11. the caretaker

    the caretaker pfm Member

    Perfect sense..
     
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  12. the caretaker

    the caretaker pfm Member

    My cds sound much better than my qobuz hi res..but I do have a decent cd player
     
  13. kabayiri

    kabayiri pfm Member

    I employ some trained bats**, who flap their little wings when they hear hi-res source.

    (** 2 bats obviously, this being stereo)
     
    SteveS1, Millennium, Steve356 and 4 others like this.
  14. Phil Bishop

    Phil Bishop pfm Member

    I think a lot of stuff put out as Hi Res is stuff that sounded great in the first place, things like Steely Dan's "Gaucho", for example. So you listen to it and think "wow, that sounds great" - well, of course it does, it always did.
     
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  15. sq225917

    sq225917 Bit of this, bit of that

    It makes no odds, if the redbook filter is decent in the first place. I have some exquisite dxd hires files, they sound no worse downsized to redbook.
     
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  16. vinylslug

    vinylslug pfm Member

    A good master will usually sound good no matter the resolution. I'm sometimes shocked how good a CD can sound when it's a good recording, well mastered.
     
  17. kabayiri

    kabayiri pfm Member

    Maybe not hi-res, but I see that some audiophiles are trialling PRaT detectors. See trial run below :)

     
  18. Zombie

    Zombie pfm Member

    The bird that doesn't smoke crack is not very impressed
     
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  19. Woodface

    Woodface pfm Member

    CD sounds really good, really don’t need it any better in reality. The quality of the original recording is far more important. Steely Dan sounds equally good on LP & CD to my ears.
     
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  20. Zombie

    Zombie pfm Member

    CDs with analog recordings even used have tape hiss, but newer version of the same recording is hiss-free and probably also more compressed. AAD to ADD?
     

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