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Hancock...You've been a Naughty Boy!

Discussion in 'off topic' started by andyoz, Jun 25, 2021.

  1. Timcat

    Timcat pfm Member

    Not a fan of the Tories, but who would that be?
  2. FrancisClement

    FrancisClement pfm Member

    As I said this is a true "Carrie On" Movie farce. Now if there was a strong opposition?????
  3. Somafunk

    Somafunk pfm Member

    Javid is a Sontaran so his blind faith in opening up on the 19th fits in well with his species creed, They are an alien race characterised by their ruthlessness and fearlessness of death

    Javid earlier today, with the classic wide legged Sontaran pose, flanked by Cleverly and Raab
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  4. kendo

    kendo Prussian bot

    That's a convenient pose for a swift boot in the 'nads, assuming Sontarans have 'em...
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  5. Seeker_UK

    Seeker_UK Feelin' nearly faded as my jeans

    Nope. They clone. Any fule kno' their weak spot is the probic vent at the back of the neck.
  6. The Far North

    The Far North pfm Member

    Surely a re-imagining of the old Brotherhood of Man song?

    Running away together
    Running away forever
    Running away from danger
    Hiding from every stranger
    They knew it wasn't wrong
    They found a love so strong
    They took their lives at night (metaphorically speaking)
    And in the morning light
    They found them on the sand
    They saw them lying there, hand-in-hand
  7. ff1d1l

    ff1d1l pfm Member

    A...People who will get covid and die because of his change in strategy and B, the Mail, the Sun the Telegraph, the Times, the Express, GB news and the good ole BBC.
  8. Seanm

    Seanm pfm Member

    I'm not sure he has a list, but basically people the government doesn't care about.
  9. Timcat

    Timcat pfm Member

    What change in strategy would that be?
  10. Timcat

    Timcat pfm Member

    Do you have any evidence of this and what weapon do you think he intends to use?
  11. Seanm

    Seanm pfm Member

    Sure: everything he's done up to now and everything he's saying now; Covid + austerity.
  12. Sue Pertwee-Tyr

    Sue Pertwee-Tyr neither here nor there

    You forgot their defining attributes: wholesale stupidity, and subservience to their authority figures.
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  13. Timcat

    Timcat pfm Member

    Covid is a virus; not in his control, therefore.

    If you are talking about unlocking, then recall that nothing we do is without risk. The risk presented to the very young and the fully vaccinated by covid is in the order of that presented by seasonal flu. Therefore, it is nowhere near sufficient to justify continuing the policy of locking every body up and continuing the destruction of lives and livelihoods caused by covid restrictions beyond the current deadline when all of the vulnerable, and almost all adults, should be fully vaccinated. These restrictions directly damage people's health and long term prospects; particularly the young who are not at any significant risk from covid. Like everything else in life, it's a trade off.

    If you are worried about the vaccine refuseniks, I'm not. Stupidity has its price!
  14. ff1d1l

    ff1d1l pfm Member

    Listen to his speech last night.
  15. Sue Pertwee-Tyr

    Sue Pertwee-Tyr neither here nor there

    What does still need to be factored in, though, is that we’re facing a Winter of both Covid and seasonal flu. Either of which has the potential to overwhelm the NHS. So the rational approach would be to first bolster NHS capability to deal with twice the normal winter surge figures, if we’re going back to normal in everyday life. Not gonna happen, is it?
  16. hc25036

    hc25036 pfm Member

    I have two concerns. The first is that a new Health Secretary who has no biological science qualification and history, just 48 hours after being unexpectedly helicoptered into the job feels confident to make bold statements about opening up in a couple of weeks. Unless he spent every one those 48 hours in tutorials with Van Tam and Whitty, Javid is talking out of his backside.

    The second is that everyone wants to be set free ASAP but the question is when is it sensible? I would argue that holding on for good modelling to be possible with some - but not complete - stopping of restrictions for a couple of weeks makes most sense.
  17. Markyb

    Markyb pfm Member

    I suspect that Javid being brought back in the fold for another go will have been with Caveats. He just said what Piffle told him. Be a good boy and say this.
  18. gustav_errata

    gustav_errata pfm Member

    The Delta variant is affecting young people more than previous variants.

    And as long as a significant number of people are not vaccinated and the virus is allowed to spread, we run the risk of the virus accumulating mutations that render the vaccines ineffective.
  19. gustav_errata

    gustav_errata pfm Member

    Hell, we're already facing a summer of both COVID-19 and seasonal flu, with particular problems for the NHS coming from children who are being brought to A&E for what turns out to be common colds or flu. Basically the end of lockdown was like a starting pistol for all the usual viruses.
  20. ff1d1l

    ff1d1l pfm Member

    As you say, stupidity has its price. Just that with this virus, and the less than stellar handling of the pandemic by the johnson and his benefiting cronies, up to now, someone else has mostly been picking up the mortality tab for the stupid. Javid is happy to escalate this.

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