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Gas and Electricity Prices

Discussion in 'off topic' started by gordonscobie, Sep 14, 2021.

  1. Mystic Mac

    Mystic Mac cauliflower ears not golden ears....


    What is the arbitrary level of deservedness... who decides that? Someone with a 2.1 in Classics or History...

    as above, 12 million over 65s in the UK

    where is the help coming from, taxes? The Tories will not tax companies any further. So where is the magic money tree to really help people.

    The solution is simple. Nationalise energy.
     
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  2. Joe Hutch

    Joe Hutch Mate of the bloke

    https://www.turn2us.org.uk/Benefit-guides/Fuel-Poverty/What-is-fuel-poverty
    Gives a definition of fuel poverty; in summary after fuel bills have been paid, the household’s residual income is below the national poverty line.
     
  3. Mystic Mac

    Mystic Mac cauliflower ears not golden ears....

    around 2.3 million working people on Universal Credits

    we have the largest low paid sector in Western Europe at around 20% of the workforce, so if you were charitable you would include all of them, not just the ones able to claim.

    then whatever the number of out of work claimants is. Unless you are totally devoid of empathy

    so I suspect it will be around 1/3 of the country.
     
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  4. matt j

    matt j pfm Member

    Through necessity not choice. They needed to dish out the money to help all their donor mates whose employees were all now being told to stay at home.
     
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  5. Curtis

    Curtis pfm Member

    Are you aware that teachers & nurses for instance are having to use food banks?
    Maybe you should open your eyes?
     
  6. farfromthesun

    farfromthesun pfm Member

    9 million households - which is 1/3 of the total in the UK - are projected to experience fuel poverty this winter.

    At present (after the April rises) the figure is around 6.5m households.
     
  7. Seeker_UK

    Seeker_UK Feelin' nearly faded as my jeans

    There are 27.8M households in the UK.

    It is estimated are that the rise in the fuel price cap in April 2022 doubled the number of households in fuel poverty, in the UK from 3.16M (11%) to 6.32M (23%). The same source predicts a further rise to 8.5M (31%) by the end of 2022.

    https://www.endfuelpoverty.org.uk/about-fuel-poverty/#:~:text=6.32 million – The estimated total,poverty from 1 April 2022.

    That means by the end of the year, at least 1 in 4 households will not be able to afford to adequately heat their homes this winter.
     
  8. twotone

    twotone pfm Member

    After January anyone/household with an income of £41,000 will be in fuel poverty
     
  9. twotone

    twotone pfm Member

    Or on their bike
     
  10. Olaup

    Olaup pfm Member

    Have we time warped back to the 80s'

    [​IMG]
     
  11. twotone

    twotone pfm Member

    It soon will be when will those Tory bastards actually, y’know, govern?

    Where will the line be drawn, when people earning £100,000 a year are in fuel poverty cause that isn’t too far fetched that represents fuel bills of £10,000 a year but by that time there will be revolution here.

    Marx said every country is three meals away from a revolution.
     
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  12. matt j

    matt j pfm Member

    How so? I don't earn anywhere near that!
     
  13. twotone

    twotone pfm Member

    Fuel poverty is categorised as paying 10% of your income in fuel bills.
     
  14. matt j

    matt j pfm Member

    I don't pay anywhere near 10% of income on fuel and I'm nowhere near 41k!!
     
  15. twotone

    twotone pfm Member

    So right now anyone/ household with an income of about £28,000 pa is officially in fuel poverty.
     
  16. twotone

    twotone pfm Member

    Well I do am in fuel poverty I’m currently paying £299 a month so that represents earnings of £36,000 pa which is about our household income ie me and my wife.
     
  17. matt j

    matt j pfm Member

    I think that is very case dependant!
     
  18. twotone

    twotone pfm Member

    Not really my son and daughter are both hitting £200 a month each my son is a chef on about £14 an hour.

    Plus don’t forget October and January’s rises are in the pipeline so probably looking at about £500 a month for me and the wife if we pay the bills that is.

    I did an online quote with Octopus the other day for a one year fix they quoted £680 a month.
     
  19. matt j

    matt j pfm Member

    Well I don't earn anything like what you and your Mrs earn and as a single bloke I'm nowhere near 10% of earnings on fuel costs.
     
  20. Olaup

    Olaup pfm Member

    I pay for my gas & electricity quarterly on receipt of bill, some of these monthly figures being banded about are astonishing. Are they direct debit payments to your suppliers as I pay nowhere near these figures ?
     

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