droodzilla
pfm Member
It is getting a bit chilly.
Must. Not. Switch. The. Heating. On.
Must. Not. Switch. The. Heating. On.
Gas and Electricity Prices
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Jim Audiomisc
pfm Member
We've been having some heating on for part of the day for a while now. Live north of Edinburgh, so not surprising. Here it depends on how sunny it is as the black slates on our roof get pretty hot when it is sunny. Since we're on the coast that does happen quite often. Mix of gas and electric and directly heat the rooms we are in. So a sort of 'part heat as needed' approach.
Jim Audiomisc
pfm Member
BTW I found two things promising yesterday. One is
https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysi...offshore-wind-is-four-times-cheaper-than-gas/
which combined with seeing on the 'iamkate' page that at 3:30pm yesterday the UK was getting far *more* electric generation from wind+solarPV than from gas!
Although ironic, one good thing about this crisis and our clueless UK Gov is that wind farms have been making good profits because they get paid based on the *gas* price - and were profitable *before* Putin's Price Hike! At least one farm developer has said this means they can spend more on building further wind farms asap. Just need the planning permissions - i.e. UK Gov rules and Local Authorities are the main bar down south for the cheaper+quicker land-based ones.
https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysi...offshore-wind-is-four-times-cheaper-than-gas/
which combined with seeing on the 'iamkate' page that at 3:30pm yesterday the UK was getting far *more* electric generation from wind+solarPV than from gas!
Although ironic, one good thing about this crisis and our clueless UK Gov is that wind farms have been making good profits because they get paid based on the *gas* price - and were profitable *before* Putin's Price Hike! At least one farm developer has said this means they can spend more on building further wind farms asap. Just need the planning permissions - i.e. UK Gov rules and Local Authorities are the main bar down south for the cheaper+quicker land-based ones.
Martyn Miles
pfm Member
I must clean out the wood burning stove ready for late Autumn.
Richard Lines
pfm Member
More insulation required???? I think we're further North than you...........
Currently 22°C in the kitchen and sat here in a 'T' shirt.
Regards
Richard
Mike Reed
pfm Member
Recklessness of the highest order and inviting ice-age doom 'n' gloom.
Sitting here with tea-cup and pullovers @ 18 degrees in Norwich
Jim Audiomisc
pfm Member
Yes. I'm currently trying to organise having someone come to get more insulation installed. Also after that wanting to see if we can have solarPV. But need it checked as its an old house and the roof might not like that.
Alas, when we explain we are still 'shielding' because of spepcific vulnerability risk (yes fully jagged) some tradespeople then seem not to want to bother to come! Hard to find a decent 'local' person to do it as well. Prefer local is possible to keep money circulation nearer.
Because of our ages/condition we need to keep the place moderately warm despite waring lots of clothing. (I'm currently wearing a vest + shirt + jumper + cardigan!) Warmer as I'm now cooking dinner.
wulbert
pfm Member
FFS!
In other words, reality and common sense are bent completely out of shape in order to meet an ideological dogma. Oh yeah, and to fleece the very people who are the rightful beneficiaries of their own countries energy production.
Thank you Mrs T. The shitty gift that keeps on shitting on us.
Richard Lines
pfm Member
The state of the slates on the house roof was one of the reasons why my original solar set-up was stuck on the steading roof. You really do need to find a decent roofer to advise in the first instance and also make sure a decent roofer is involved in any Solar PV install. The main roof timbers will likely be more than strong enough it is the security of the slate fixings and/ or woodworm in the parking where problems will lie.
As I'm sure you're aware resolving this, even over a 'limited' area, isn't going to be cheap.
Having seen pictures of cowboy installs on relatively modern roofs I wouldn't want some of these people anywhere near my house roof.
If the roof is an issue then there is always a ground mount option although this doesn't suit everybody and does depend on how much land you have. They can be mounted in an elevated position.
Regards
Richard
Jim Audiomisc
pfm Member
Yes. At present I don't know one way or the other if our roof would be OK. Alas, our 'garage' roof is shadowed by the house next door which is 2-story and to our South. So for Solar PV I'd need to find someone who is competent and honest. Hence I'm taking that slowly. A related issue is possibly having a 'house battery' but I have no idea if that would make sense in the absence of SolarPV as a way to 'time shift' buying electric energy to a cheaper time at night, etc. Practical experience on that from others would be welcome as, again, I guess it isn't cheap to get.
mansr
Objectionist
Technically, it's certainly possible. Batteries don't care where the charging energy comes from. The savings will be smaller, though, since you'd always be paying something.
Jim Audiomisc
pfm Member
Are present 'house battery' systems bidirectional? i.e. can also be used in part to 'sell back' to the grid at times of high demand and low generation? I know these are planned for the future as part of a 'smart grid' but don't know what can be done yet in the UK.
Jim Audiomisc
pfm Member
Only got part-way thus far. Not sure if it all 'makes sense' as yet. But I'm duly surprised that the EU approach looks like being the UK one with a paper hat and a party squeeker to disguise it!
I wish someone had passed a law decades ago that all politicians have to have read *and* understood Galbraith's work. It is much clearer than Keen's. (No point in saying it is clearer than Keynes because even a hire purchase contract is clearer. 8-])
palindrome
Thru a hedge, backwards and forwards.
And thanks from me, Ponty. Hadn't thought about it. Oops.
John
John