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FoS - anyone else here?

Amazing. But I’m a bit sad that the record is electric now. Oh well it is the future.

I wonder how fast these lecy cars will be, when they don’t need batteries because fuel cells have taken over (once everyone realises that battery power is environmentally worse than combustion.)

That will make them super fast. I think that the ‘fan cars’ tech might re-emerge, as they’ll then be so light! :cool:
 
Rug Doc said:
Amazing. But I’m a bit sad that the record is electric now. Oh well it is the future.
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Gone t'wert days when lichen crawled round circuit taking millions nay billions of years, you try.... cont p94
 
sq225917 said:
Will the batteries last up pikes peak?
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Not just lasted, but took the outright record in a manner worth watching.

It's awesome stuff. That VW project has first redefined expectations at PIke's Peak*, and then very recently, the Nurburgring.

I like it, a lot.

I don't think fuel cells are the way forward - battery storage is a denser, more-flexible /responsive way to dump power into a motor. Currently the sheer power density and load-range/peak-output capability of li-ion tech is killing it. At some point the future might involve a hybrid of the two (possibly with even-more flexible battery tech based on sodium for peak load delivery - nb. NA-ion variants a tech as yet under-exploited, but likely better for the environment -and sodium is plentiful, and cheap)

Exciting times.


* Pike's Peak footage is a great watch - what can be done by VW with 500kW max, way les than some of the homegrown entries boast from the inevitable blown v8. and similarly, Just.So.Many pundits implied a battery-powered car would be dull-ish, but the crowd comments, whenever you find a vid of it on Youtube, are mostly filled with expressions like 'holy f&*k'! as the VW squats and doesn't merely accelerate, so much as just eff-off out of each bend past the crowd.

It is all striking footage, IMO right up there with Ari Vatanan's 'Climb Dance' film of the same route in a Group B Peugeot 406 in the 80s (long before the route was paved in entirety). Autre temps, autre mores. The future of driving is exciting once again.
 
Linky to the Pike's Peak run..


And the Nurburgring:


Though they have a long way to go to beat the Porsche, which appears to have a much higher top speed (looks like it is speeded up video but it isn't..):


Goodwood is 41 seconds, a show, and I guess relatively easy to set up the car for....I was impressed all the same. It went round Molecombe (the only 'serious' corner, two big offs today) like it was on rails.
 
I dunno nuffink abaahht modern leccy cars, but the Land Speed Record wos 'eld by a leccy car at abahht 75 mph s0metime in the late 19th C..
 
Comparing ICE to electric cars is like comparing cars to bikes. Electric cars should have their own class and record.
 
It should be interesting next week when the New Lotus 130 all electric Hypercar is launched, I believe it's at the FOS now under a shroud of security.

It will show if its a folly by the pricing of it. Will it be affordable to the Lotus enthusiast who's already seen the marque hit Porsche price structures? or will it be an unaffordable (to most) show case oddball once more?
 
Ginger said:
And unplug you Tony?
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Preferable to watching Formula E. We all have different tastes and needs, but I can’t imagine leaving home at 5am to drive to a long queue to then go and sit in a little grandstand to then watch electric cars driving around a little track in London. No appeal whatsoever.
 

Land Speed Record

Land Speed Record Holders
Date Speed
(MPH) Driver Country Power Where Car
15/10/1997 763.035 Andy Green GB Jet Black Rock Thrust SSC
25/09/1997 714.144 Andy Green GB Jet Black Rock Thrust SSC
04/10/1983 633.468 Richard Noble GB Jet Black Rock Thrust 2
23/10/1970 622.407 Gary Gabelich USA Rocket Bonneville The Blue Flame
15/11/1965 600.601 Craig Breedlove USA Jet Bonneville S of A Sonic 1
07/11/1965 576.553 Art Arfons USA Jet Bonneville Green Monster
02/11/1965 555.485 Craig Breedlove USA Jet Bonneville S of A Sonic 1
27/10/1964 536.710 Art Arfons USA Jet Bonneville Green Monster
15/10/1964 526.277 Craig Breedlove USA Jet Bonneville Spirit Of America
13/10/1964 468.719 Craig Breedlove USA Jet Bonneville Spirit Of America
05/10/1964 434.022 Art Arfons USA Jet Bonneville Green Monster
02/10/1964 413.199 Tom Green USA Jet Bonneville Wingfoot Express
17/07/1964 403.135 Donald Campbell GB Jet Lake Eyre Bluebird CN7
05/08/1963 407.447* Craig Breedlove USA Jet Bonneville Spirit Of America
16/09/1947 394.196 John Cobb GB ICE Bonneville Railton Mobil Special
23/08/1939 369.741 John Cobb GB ICE Bonneville Railton
16/09/1938 357.497 George Eyston GB ICE Bonneville Thunderbolt
15/09/1938 350.194 John Cobb GB ICE Bonneville Railton
27/08/1938 345.489 George Eyston GB ICE Bonneville Thunderbolt
19/11/1937 312.203 George Eyston GB ICE Bonneville Thunderbolt
03/09/1935 301.129 Sir Malcolm Campbell GB ICE Bonneville Blue Bird
07/03/1935 276.710 Sir Malcolm Campbell GB ICE Daytona Blue Bird
22/02/1933 272.465 Sir Malcolm Campbell GB ICE Daytona Blue Bird
24/02/1932 253.968 Sir Malcolm Campbell GB ICE Daytona Blue Bird
05/02/1931 246.088 Malcolm Campbell GB ICE Daytona Blue Bird
11/03/1929 231.362 Henry Segrave GB ICE Daytona Golden Arrow
22/04/1928 207.553 Ray Keech USA ICE Daytona Triplex
19/02/1928 206.956 Malcolm Campbell GB ICE Pendine Bluebird
29/03/1927 203.793 Henry Segrave GB ICE Daytona Sunbeam
04/02/1927 174.883 Malcolm Campbell GB ICE Pendine Bluebird
28/04/1926 171.019 Parry Thomas GB ICE Pendine Babs
27/04/1926 169.298 Parry Thomas GB ICE Pendine Babs
16/03/1926 152.307 Henry Segrave GB ICE Southport Sunbeam
21/07/1925 150.766 Malcolm Campbell GB ICE Pendine Sunbeam
25/09/1924 146.163 Malcolm Campbell GB ICE Pendine Sunbeam
06/07/1924 143.312 René Thomas FR ICE Arpajon Delage
17/05/1922 133.788 Kenelm Lee Guinness GB ICE Brooklands Sunbeam
27/04/1920 156.047 Tommy Milton USA ICE Daytona Duesenburg
17/02/1919 149.875* Ralph de Palma USA ICE Daytona Packard
24/06/1914 124.095 L.G Hornsted GB ICE Brooklands Benz
23/04/1911 141.732* Bob Burman USA ICE Daytona Benz
03/03/1910 131.267* Barney Oldfield USA ICE Daytona Benz
08/11/1909 125.946 Victor Héméry FR ICE Brooklands Benz
23/01/1906 121.573 Fred Marriot USA Steam Daytona Stanley
30/12/1905 109.589 Victor Héméry FR ICE Arles-Salon Darracq
25/01/1905 104.651* Arthur Macdonald GB ICE Daytona Napier
13/11/1904 104.530 Paul Baras FR ICE Ostend Darracq
21/07/1904 103.561* Louis Rigolly FR ICE Ostend Gobron-Brillié
25/05/1904 97.258 Baron Pierre de Caters FR ICE Ostend Mercedes
31/03/1904 94.785 Louis Rigolly FR ICE Nice Gobron-Brillié
27/01/1904 92.308* William K Vanderbilt USA ICE Daytona Mercedes
12/01/1904 91.371* Henry Ford USA ICE Lake St Clair Ford
05/11/1903 84.732 Arthur Duray BE ICE Dourdan Gobron-Brilli
17/07/1903 83.468 Arthur Duray BE ICE Ostend Gobron-Brilli
17/11/1902 77.136 Augières FR ICE Dourdan Mors
05/08/1902 76.086 William K Vanderbilt USA ICE Ablis Mors
13/04/1902 75.065 Leon Serpollet FR Steam Nice Serpollet
29/04/1899 65.792 Camille Jenatzy BE Electric Achères Jenatzy
04/03/1899 57.653 Gaston Chasseloup-Laubat FR Electric Achères Jeantaud
27/01/1899 49.932 Camille Jenatzy BE Electric Achères Jenatzy
17/01/1899 43.690 Gaston Chasseloup-Laubat FR Electric Achères Jeantaud
17/01/1899 41.425 Camille Jenatzy BE Electric Achères Jenatzy
18/12/1898 39.245 Gaston Chasseloup-Laubat FR Electric Achères Jeantaud


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It's on youtube, been watching quite a bit. Rally stage was fun!

I went last year, incredible event and loved every bit of it but getting out on Sat eve........
 
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