Hi John, I do underrate them I spec them on mains low at 195VAC and I also ignore the first 5W, so checking back on records for your beast I got 45W into 8R, 90W/4R, 178W/2R both channels at 220VAC. And before anybody jumps up and down, there is 4 main regulated power supplies and two analogue shunt reg and a 15V power control reg, independent from the analogue circuits.
EWA pfm tour: ABCaudio demo kit
Hi John, I do underrate them I spec them on mains low at 195VAC and I also ignore the first 5W, so checking back on records for your beast I got 45W into 8R, 90W/4R, 178W/2R both channels at 220VAC. And before anybody jumps up and down, there is 4 main regulated power supplies and two analogue shunt reg and a 15V power control reg, independent from the analogue circuits.
Will it have remote control Colin?
If you have been a good boy and stopped buying digital lies and piano music.
Have you been good ? 
flutteringwow
She called me baby, like an old romantic
Personally, I know who I would trust, and it isn't the poster than reported this 'supposed' issue.
gustav_errata
pfm Member
Life and critics for all things from Food to how many legs a Spider has, well mine had wheels.
So one in 25,000 is not bad me thinks.
Understood and I can 100% sympathise about living life under constant evaluation by others. In this case the complaint is a simple enough one to refute: he measured the starting point speaker cable as having a much higher resistance than specified. I am in the queue for trialling the starting point cables, as I'm interested in buying them, but I don't have a multimeter to test the resistance claim myself. However, I will happily test the secondary claim of a 2.5dB drop in average SPL and report back here.
His measurement was so far off-spec, so bizarre, that it's most likely either a mistake or due to a one-off construction problem, but it would be nice to lay it to rest in any case.
flutteringwow
She called me baby, like an old romantic
He ‘claimed’ to measure. Considering the posters general rhetoric, I find little confidence in any claims they make, personally.
gustav_errata
pfm Member
Sure, but "claimed to measure" is way easier to definitively dismiss than, say, "claimed to hear" and, in this case at least, requires minimal effort without any specialised gear (just a multimeter not an Audio Presion device or whatever).
I didn't set out to be a "squeaky wheel" here, and my perspective has been from someone who has been eager to try/buy EWA stuff for a while now (look back, all of my posts about them have been enthusiastic and I remain so, even though I have not yet had the pleasure of trying their cables or amps...they're just high on the wishlist) and not someone out to stir up trouble. So, best if I just leave it there...
ABCaudio
Trade: ABCaudio, representing EWA
Hello all,
New cables: A bit of a question which we have been chewing over. If we were to release these 'new' cables, they would improve on LS-25 - 40 - 80 in all areas; but by doing such a thing we could make many people dissatisfied with what they have already purchased for their system. And these cables are already excellent, in our view.
The obvious business strategy is to keep the existing ranges running, and release two better cables (one above LS-40 and another above LS-80). Doing so almost doubles our manufacturing costs but we probably get to sell a lot of upgrades.
I guess being 'trade' now the answer should be clear, but we are not inclined to go down that path.
So this is the decision: We will incorporate the more accessible improvements into LS-25 - 40 - 80 as we go along, meaning an incremental improvement to the existing products at no extra cost. That seems ultimately fair to everyone that buys into EWA and Colin's approach, both in the past and future; and we are surely permitted to make improvements and refinements as we go. We already incorporated the revision into LS-25 and it sounds great.
We will save the main design changes for a new product later in the year or next, which will mean a new top speaker cable and maybe one below. It is a bit of a project, as to make the most of it we will have to have new tooling made at the manufacturer (the LS form factor we have will not make the most of the changes).
Clear as mud?
Digital cables: Still coming, I am told. Colin is making a set of USB filters for me this week, so I am glad to say we are moving again.
We are also working on two power cables: a new TOTL cable with filtering and DC blocking built in - this will be superb with the double shielding that the MCS reference already has. Also a new Starting Point power cable, built from a standard cable with features added that really will make a difference. The difficulty is stopping Colin from throwing everything at it! - Which is why he is making a top cable as well.
Finally, on this Starting Point cable that has high resistance: I have no insight into this at all, I simply publish what has been measured when it comes to specification. I do not wish to cast aspersions over whether our customer measured it correctly either, that is not fair. However I think the following is fair to say: Every cable we sell has a 30 day return period - longer if people are reasonable. If there is indeed an issue or even problem with this cable, why did I not hear about it? Why was a return for a full refund not requested? It would have been processed with no quibble at all. Those are really the only questions I have; it is a shame to read all about it on a forum rather than to have heard directly from our customer.
As for performance of SP, it's really very good indeed, and has been most enthusiastically received - (almost) without exception. And when it gets it's little revision like the other three speaker cables in the ranges above, I have hopes it will be almost as good as older LS-25.
New cables: A bit of a question which we have been chewing over. If we were to release these 'new' cables, they would improve on LS-25 - 40 - 80 in all areas; but by doing such a thing we could make many people dissatisfied with what they have already purchased for their system. And these cables are already excellent, in our view.
The obvious business strategy is to keep the existing ranges running, and release two better cables (one above LS-40 and another above LS-80). Doing so almost doubles our manufacturing costs but we probably get to sell a lot of upgrades.
I guess being 'trade' now the answer should be clear, but we are not inclined to go down that path.
So this is the decision: We will incorporate the more accessible improvements into LS-25 - 40 - 80 as we go along, meaning an incremental improvement to the existing products at no extra cost. That seems ultimately fair to everyone that buys into EWA and Colin's approach, both in the past and future; and we are surely permitted to make improvements and refinements as we go. We already incorporated the revision into LS-25 and it sounds great.
We will save the main design changes for a new product later in the year or next, which will mean a new top speaker cable and maybe one below. It is a bit of a project, as to make the most of it we will have to have new tooling made at the manufacturer (the LS form factor we have will not make the most of the changes).
Clear as mud?
Digital cables: Still coming, I am told. Colin is making a set of USB filters for me this week, so I am glad to say we are moving again.
We are also working on two power cables: a new TOTL cable with filtering and DC blocking built in - this will be superb with the double shielding that the MCS reference already has. Also a new Starting Point power cable, built from a standard cable with features added that really will make a difference. The difficulty is stopping Colin from throwing everything at it! - Which is why he is making a top cable as well.
Finally, on this Starting Point cable that has high resistance: I have no insight into this at all, I simply publish what has been measured when it comes to specification. I do not wish to cast aspersions over whether our customer measured it correctly either, that is not fair. However I think the following is fair to say: Every cable we sell has a 30 day return period - longer if people are reasonable. If there is indeed an issue or even problem with this cable, why did I not hear about it? Why was a return for a full refund not requested? It would have been processed with no quibble at all. Those are really the only questions I have; it is a shame to read all about it on a forum rather than to have heard directly from our customer.
As for performance of SP, it's really very good indeed, and has been most enthusiastically received - (almost) without exception. And when it gets it's little revision like the other three speaker cables in the ranges above, I have hopes it will be almost as good as older LS-25.
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ex brickie
pfm Member
Hi Alan
Your company's honesty with its customers is admirable - and unrivalled in my opinion. You didn't have to tell us any of this but grateful you did. You are right that you might have cheesed off customers who recently bought into your products but to be honest that can be the case with any manufacturer's upgrade. And for some of us, we have laid out all we can afford to get the great quality of your existing products (I'm an LS-80 owner for those who don't know)
That said, I'm so satisfied with my speaker cables that I no longer hanker after anything 'better' - they are that good!
Thanks again though for your transparency with your customers - I'm sure many others appreciate it too
Your company's honesty with its customers is admirable - and unrivalled in my opinion. You didn't have to tell us any of this but grateful you did. You are right that you might have cheesed off customers who recently bought into your products but to be honest that can be the case with any manufacturer's upgrade. And for some of us, we have laid out all we can afford to get the great quality of your existing products (I'm an LS-80 owner for those who don't know)
That said, I'm so satisfied with my speaker cables that I no longer hanker after anything 'better' - they are that good!
Thanks again though for your transparency with your customers - I'm sure many others appreciate it too
ex brickie
pfm Member
PS that doesn't mean I won't participate in a demo if there is a set going round in future!
flutteringwow
She called me baby, like an old romantic
Im sure all the SP measures as they publish. They wouldn't publish something that wasn't true - from what I know of both Colin and Alan, they are as honest as they come.
If there is an issue with the product, the customer would be able to contact Alan to discuss. As Alan said, it didn't happen, which reduces my confidence in the poster even further that it already was.
I have no interest how they measure personally, it's how they sound, and I'm a big fan of the LS80's, so I am sure for the price point, the SP ones are very very good but trying is believing, so why not take them up on their 30 day return offer?
gustav_errata
pfm Member
Agreed all around.
I'm in the queue for the Starting Point cables box that's making the rounds, so I was just holding off for that (so I can try everything in one go).
ABCaudio
Trade: ABCaudio, representing EWA
Hi Matt
IC-40 digital (RCA and USB) are available, as are IC-25. In fact I need to make a set of 40s up ready for photography.
Which power cable are you wanting to listen to?
Also, did you once say you wanted to demo an A-40? I think you did... there may be one available in a while.
IC-40 digital (RCA and USB) are available, as are IC-25. In fact I need to make a set of 40s up ready for photography.
Which power cable are you wanting to listen to?
Also, did you once say you wanted to demo an A-40? I think you did... there may be one available in a while.
Curtis
pfm Member
IWhat is the gauge of the SP cables and how long were they?
iansr
pfm Member
Alan mentioned that the A40 can deliver a lot of current. A couple of weeks ago I took mine to try it on my pal’s Scintillas. Now in case you don’t know Scintillas have an impedance curve that drops to well below 1 ohm and they are known for being amp killers. Now I didn’t want to turn the volume all the way up just in case but we took it up to a decent 75 / 80dB. Unsurprisingly the heatsinks got pretty warm but the A40 remained composed and sounded damn good. The Scintillas benefit from a lot more watts than the A40 can deliver (my pal has a Gryphon Mephisto which as I recall is about ten times more powerful) but it was a great test for the A40. Here’s a pic of the A40 sat on top of the Mephisto:
Edit: pic didn’t work, will try again
Edit: pic didn’t work, will try again
iansr
pfm Member
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