Ouchy. That's going to smart.I paid £300 for two fronts & £430 for the rears, gulp. Run flat P7s
It seems to be a common size so the manufacturers get decent run lengths and economies of scale. We all like long run lengths. The bizarre thing is that once standard sizes, the 145-12s, 165-13s and 185-14s of the world, are hard to find and more expensive.My golf runs 225-45 r17, they’re pretty inexpensive... but then 17” isn’t considered a particularly large wheel these days.
Oh it did. Cheap tyres are a false economy IMEOuchy. That's going to smart.
If you are doing this just check the owners' handbook to make sure that that the size you fit is a standard one approved for that model. The last thing that you want is some sharp-eyed insurance assessor saying "oh dear, undeclared modification" and nixing a claim.If you're buying a set and they look expensive try the nearby sizes, 5mm here or there often won't affect the drive and can get you to a standard size that's far cheaper.
As ever it depends. The cheapest tyres can be pretty poor, but equally it's rather silly to put a Carlos Fandango Racing model on my spare when £50 gets you an "Event" that's round black and boring, does a perfectly adequate job, far better than a runflat or a wheelbarrow job, and gets you home on the 2 occasions that you may need it.Oh it did. Cheap tyres are a false economy IME
It’s not so much about the car you drive, it’s how you drive it
Yes, I agree re winter. Better tyres tend to last a bit longer but BMW often use odd sizes to lock you in to certain brands. It's all a racket!As ever it depends. The cheapest tyres can be pretty poor, but equally it's rather silly to put a Carlos Fandango Racing model on my spare when £50 gets you an "Event" that's round black and boring, does a perfectly adequate job, far better than a runflat or a wheelbarrow job, and gets you home on the 2 occasions that you may need it.
If you are so concerned about the ultimate tyre performance, I think that the money is better spent on some used rims and winter tyres to get you through Nov-Mar. I'd put money on cheap winter tyres outperforming Michelin PSS or whatever when you have to brake on a shady, slimy bend one frosty winter's morning. After all, everything grips in the dry. Nobody sane ever approaches the limits of a tyre on a public road on a sunny afternoon.
I keep meaning to do this. Having talked earlier about my Caterham driving pal who wanted mechanical upgrades but "didn't think he needed" driver training, I'm as guilty as anyone else of thinking of my driving as at least adequate and generally better than average, having had precisely no driver training beyond a speed awareness course last year and driving lessons in 1984. I know that my ability to control a car that's going sideways in wet or icy conditions isn't brilliant, yet in 35 years of driving I've never attempted to do anything about it.I’d spend some money on a driving course that involves dealing with a car that suddenly goes out of control, too.
Skid pans are very useful!
I know that my ability to control a car that's going sideways in wet or icy conditions isn't brilliant, yet in 35 years of driving I've never attempted to do anything about it.
I’d spend some money on a driving course that involves dealing with a car that suddenly goes out of control, too.
Skid pans are very useful!
Most modern cars, as standard, will be pretty boring on a skid pan. The ESP or whatever your manufacturer wants to call it will prevent most acts of mischief, even when you think it’s all turned off.
Too many folk rely on the technology, rather than understand the vehicle better. Even with ABS some skids are not recoverable.
If your car has a button to turn esp off, and you enjoy a spirited drive, the difference in the feel of the car can be quite a surprise.