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Cyclists to be awarded equality with motorists.

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Rob998, Aug 6, 2022.

  1. flatpopely

    flatpopely Prog Rock/Moderator

    All road users should be respectful of other users and be responsible for their actions, regardless of vehicle type. The risk changes depending what you are driving, one should drive accordingly. Politics is and should be irrelevant to this.
     
  2. flatpopely

    flatpopely Prog Rock/Moderator

    He saw her stepping out into the road and took no evasive action.
     
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  3. cobbers

    cobbers pfm Member

    Then they need to get ahead of the game - they need to see what happens when they are let loose (Tbilisi)

    Brakes:
    • It's an offence to ride a bicycle on a public road without two efficient braking systems, operating independently on the front and rear wheel. Apart from saying that a brake which operates directly on a pneumatic tyre is not efficient, the regulations are unhelpful as to what is or is not efficient, nor do they define how the brakes must operate.
    • It is clear that a fixed wheel counts as a braking system operating on that wheel, so a fixed wheel bike with a front brake is legal (assuming both brakes are efficient!), but a fixed wheel bike with merely a rear brake isn't, as there's no independent front wheel brake.
     
  4. Seeker_UK

    Seeker_UK Feelin' nearly faded as my jeans

    Also, he didn't stop after hitting her.
     
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  5. cobbers

    cobbers pfm Member

    So left the scene of an accident
     
  6. flatpopely

    flatpopely Prog Rock/Moderator

    And lied under oath.
     
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  7. Jimin

    Jimin pfm Member

  8. zeon

    zeon pfm Member

    The gazing at phone stepping off pavement is classic these days. As for red lights its pretty simple... JUST STOP... I do so 100 % of time on the bike ( honest ). Red light jumpers
    can also be very dangerous to pedestrians / other road traffic.
     
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  9. flatpopely

    flatpopely Prog Rock/Moderator

    5 years ago whilst walking on Sutton Bank I was on the right side of the road, two cyclists coming downhill missed me by inches, they were travelling faster than I would have in a car. Had they hit me, doesn't bear thinking about. What did stike me is they were not riding in consideration of other road users (me as a pedestrian) or their ability to anticipate the need to stop in an emergancy.
     
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  10. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity

    On the road? Footpath? Cycle track?
     
  11. flatpopely

    flatpopely Prog Rock/Moderator

    On the road.
     
  12. Bob McC

    Bob McC Living the life of Riley

    Fantastic and Long overdue change in the law.
     
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  13. flutteringwow

    flutteringwow I am a sound quality evaluation device

    There should be mandatory licences to ride a bike on a public road and it should also have a points system in place. Ok so it may be hard pushed to ‘ban’ offenders from cycling after hitting a high level of points but you can sure as hell fine them and put them on cycling proficiency courses.
     
  14. Woodface

    Woodface pfm Member

    But it is being used by the Tories for this very purpose, it is not based on need as there are adequate laws in place.
     
  15. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity

    That’s it. Anything to deter people from getting fitter and healthier, being environmentally better people.

    And who the hell will enforce all this?
    Have you called the police after a burglary lately?
     
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  16. S-Man

    S-Man Kinkless Tetrode Admirer

    Many of the scrotes cycling recklessly are very proficient. I wish I could do a one handed wheelie like some of them can!
     
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  17. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity

    And I’ll say this again.

    Scuba divers take pretty thorough courses. Some die.

    Motorcyclists pass strict tests, but many still ride like c***s and die.

    Pilots, mountaineers, ooo car drivers, lorry drivers….

    How the hell will YOU make sure cyclists alone will obey the law?
     
  18. Woodface

    Woodface pfm Member

    I am not defending his actions but just pointing out that his sentence (inadequate IMV) is actually in line with what drivers have been receiving (as outlined up thread).
     
  19. Woodface

    Woodface pfm Member

    Very difficult to determine whether they were going faster than you would in a car & I don’t see how this is relevant?
     
  20. flutteringwow

    flutteringwow I am a sound quality evaluation device

    Use the traffic cameras and cyclists or their bikes to have an id number. Same as other road users do.
     

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