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Cricket 2021 - all things cricket for this year on pfm

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Andrew C!, Jan 24, 2021.

  1. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    Great shame to see Root turning down the challenge this afternoon. I think that total was doable and who cares if they lose trying - not me.
     
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  2. deej92

    deej92 Well-Known Member

    We agree on something! ;)
     
  3. Weekender

    Weekender pfm Member

  4. Woodface

    Woodface pfm Member

    NZ cricket team play the game in the right way.
     
  5. wacko

    wacko pfm Member

    ^ the last few years have finally eroded any sense of inferiority NZ may have had comparing with the 'mother country'. And not just cricket.
     
  6. Woodface

    Woodface pfm Member

    Not really the point I was making. I just like the way they are competitive without resorting to gamesmanship & aggressive behaviour. Unlike the Aussies or India.
     
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  7. Spraggons Den

    Spraggons Den pfm Member

    Much admiration for the way Kane Williamson conducts himself as NZ captain and the way his team plays. I have them as big favourites against India in the best Test team decider due to the similarity in English/NZ conditions, especially for their bowling cohort.
     
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  8. peter bj

    peter bj pfm Member

    England could definately have made more of an effort to score runs and tried to force a result ,a bit boring in the end !
     
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  9. Andrew C!

    Andrew C! Been around a while....

    England got away with a draw this time. Had day 3 not been rained off we’d have lost this test.
     
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  10. Spraggons Den

    Spraggons Den pfm Member

    I think this afternoon provided a big clue to the Test teams mentality under Silverwood and marks a change from the Baylis era when we would have all been out for 90-110 chasing the game.

    I support Silverwoods approach but I am painfully aware of our lack of talented and experienced batsmen at this level which has been a problem for quite a while now and makes winning matches bloody difficult.
     
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  11. Woodface

    Woodface pfm Member

    We are missing a couple of key players to be fair
     
  12. Bob McC

    Bob McC Living the life of Riley

    And Ollie has been suspended and won’t be there for the next test.
     
  13. Andrew C!

    Andrew C! Been around a while....

    3 at least... Stokes will come back in unconditionally. Buttler likewise, although not as clear cut if Foakes had been fit. Archer is an either/or with Wood, so if both are fit both would be selected for the final group.
     
  14. Spraggons Den

    Spraggons Den pfm Member

    Stokes and Butler are fine batsmen for their positions in the team but we should not be relying on them to cover for the failures of the dedicated batsmen at numbers 1 to 6.
     
  15. Andrew C!

    Andrew C! Been around a while....

    You have to let new players settle in. Crawley and Lawrence look to have great potential, and provided they don’t succumb to the usual rhetoric the English cricketing media have for instant results, they will come good.

    I do feel we have better strength in depth regarding our seam bowling and wicket keeping, as opposed to batting and spin, tho.

    Chris Woakes would have played in any other country’s test team much more than ours, but when you have two proven wicket taking seamers it’s difficult.

    And, on a track offering little seam, it was good to see us keep things tight for long spells.
     
  16. deej92

    deej92 Well-Known Member

  17. Spraggons Den

    Spraggons Den pfm Member

    I agree that Crawley is the future and the management are to blame for his current lack of form having shoved him in as opener against India over the winter. I am sure he will come good again and his style may well be suited to Australia conditions next winter although he looks more like a number 4 than a 3 to me (granted pretty much the same thing in the present England team).
     
  18. peter bj

    peter bj pfm Member

    It does seem a bit OTT to suspend Ollie for something he did 8 years ago ! He appologised for what he had tweeted in a professional way which I felt was appropriate , a lots of people will have said things 8 years ago that they would not dream of doing so now
     
  19. Woodface

    Woodface pfm Member

    The ECB like a lot of sporting bodies are taking a stand against racism; this is to be applauded. The player in question was an adult at the time & I am not convinced that such views simply disappear with age.
     
  20. peter bj

    peter bj pfm Member

    I think the point is that there is a lot of difference between what a 19 year old would say 8 years ago and a 27 year old would remark on in2021 when race is a much more sensitive issue . It also seems to be rediculous that it only becomes an issue when he starts his test carreer , surely it should have been dealt with a long time ago .
     

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