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Coronavirus - the new strain XXIII

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This news gets depress. We are still restricted in our daily actions. Many companies still work remote despite the fact that many people already vaccinated, we are use even special employee time tracker that monitor our work and we don't know when this will end.
 
Can't continue like what indefinitely? Serious question.
I know the government has just cancelled 'Plan B' so it's a fair question. I suppose in my mind I'm thinking that something akin to Plan B restrictions, or something more stringent, is unlikely to be tolerated as the 'norm'. So restrictions on socialising, going to events, whether or not to wear masks, travel, workplaces... all the 'stuff' we've accepted for the last couple of years, for the greater good. Some of this is provided for in laws which have a sunset clause, some of it is done by public consent. Are we, in effect, saying 'those days when you could go to the pub, or a gig, or on holiday, or to work, without a care are gone, get over it'?
 
This news gets depress. We are still restricted in our daily actions. Many companies still work remote despite the fact that many people already vaccinated, we are use even special employee time tracker that monitor our work and we don't know when this will end.

Unfortuately people have been sold a pig in a poke about it being all over, the summer easing being irreversible etc so that now it appears endless at every set back. I think this pattern is likely to continue - the models have been predicting another omicron wave as vaccine waning takes a strong effect, for example. We need to start building the infrastructure that will allow us to live more easily with covid (and possibly the next virus) worldwide but at the moment there's no sign that the G8 is taking that need for investment seriously...
 
This news gets depress. We are still restricted in our daily actions. Many companies still work remote despite the fact that many people already vaccinated, we are use even special employee time tracker that monitor our work and we don't know when this will end.

The stupid employee time tracker isn't the fault of covid. It's the fault of the company you work for.

Have you tried plugging in a mouse jiggler?
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I know the government has just cancelled 'Plan B' so it's a fair question. I suppose in my mind I'm thinking that something akin to Plan B restrictions, or something more stringent, is unlikely to be tolerated as the 'norm'. So restrictions on socialising, going to events, whether or not to wear masks, travel, workplaces... all the 'stuff' we've accepted for the last couple of years, for the greater good. Some of this is provided for in laws which have a sunset clause, some of it is done by public consent. Are we, in effect, saying 'those days when you could go to the pub, or a gig, or on holiday, or to work, without a care are gone, get over it'?

Right, to all intents and purposes there are no restrictions now, at least in England. We can do all those things you mention. Doing them 'without a care' is somewhat subjective as all activities carry some sort of risk.
 
This news gets depress. We are still restricted in our daily actions. Many companies still work remote despite the fact that many people already vaccinated, we are use even special employee time tracker that monitor our work and we don't know when this will end.

I remember meeting someone from IBM on holiday about twenty years ago and when he said his job was “corporate reporting” I asked him to explain what it was and it was basically spying on people in the company, it was only a matter of time before it became the norm.
 
There is also an element of people who have done well out of this not wanting a return to ‘normality’ be it money, minor celebrity, lifestyle.
Always winners and losers, opportunity and loss in any big change.
 
Just in the spirit of general news...

A family opposite us joined us out in the street for a low key and brief 'New Year' celebration...along with many other neighbours at Midnight on 31 Dec. That was Mum/Dad and Daughter who is about 8. Son.. about 10 was reported as having Covid and being 'on the couch'.

It took until today but I met the Dad and asked how the Covid had affected the rest of the family. It seems Mum and Dad both got it and tested positive, both LFT and PCR. Both reported nothing more than 'cold like' symptoms. Mum has ME.
Daughter displayed no symptoms and tested negative with repeated LFTs, but positive on PCR.
All now recovered and well.

Meanwhile my oldest daughter reported that my No.1 Granddaughter (8) had Covid last week and tested positive via LFT. Two days sitting in bed watching TV and she was fine.
Grandson (10) also coughing and spluttering continues to test negative via LFT, as do both parents.

Meanwhile, youngest (vaccinated) daughter and (unvaccinated) :mad: partner both have coughs but test negative and 7 month old youngest Grandaughter is unaffected. Mrs Mull has same cough..also testing negative. I felt shit for 1 day and also tested neg.

Make of that what you will.. but it seems clear to me that LFTs are not entirely reliable. Whether that is inherent..or a function of home testing competence of users is moot.
 
6 Cases were identified on my plane from Helsinki to Shanghai a couple of weeks back. I am still in quarantine and PCR tests are carried out every couple of days. Temperature is checked every day. I have had a runny nose and a bit of a cough all this week which I am attributing to the AIrcon.
On 31st I will be moved to Hangzhou where for a further 7 days quarantine in a Hotel.

Hangzhou had an outbreak of 14 cases in the past few days in one of its districts. Last night 400 buses showed up in said district, rounded up approx 20k people and shipped them off to isolation for a few days.....they don't muck about here it would seem.
 
@Seanm today's Indie Sage might have been interesting to you as they discussed the interaction between the public and scientists and how this had changed.

As you have discussed this on here I thought you might be interested in how they marked their own homework etc, including having the Irish equivalent to iSage on to discuss aspects of what happened.
 
@Seanm today's Indie Sage might have been interesting to you as they discussed the interaction between the public and scientists and how this had changed.

As you have discussed this on here I thought you might be interested in how they marked their own homework etc, including having the Irish equivalent to iSage on to discuss aspects of what happened.
Cheers Ian I really should have a look but I know I'd find it too infuriating. I flicked it on briefly and there was Alice Roberts talking about public engagement with science - the same Alice Roberts who claimed that the government were performing an unethical experiment on the population by deliberately infecting us with the virus, and accused Public Health England of suppressing data by timing its release with a football match. These people are the worst thing to happen to the public understanding of science since the MMR fiasco, which some of their pals happened to have a hand in.
 
6 Cases were identified on my plane from Helsinki to Shanghai a couple of weeks back. I am still in quarantine and PCR tests are carried out every couple of days. Temperature is checked every day. I have had a runny nose and a bit of a cough all this week which I am attributing to the AIrcon.
On 31st I will be moved to Hangzhou where for a further 7 days quarantine in a Hotel.

Hangzhou had an outbreak of 14 cases in the past few days in one of its districts. Last night 400 buses showed up in said district, rounded up approx 20k people and shipped them off to isolation for a few days.....they don't muck about here it would seem.

Now that we have safe and effective MRNA vaccines, and effective antiviral production ramping up I think I prefer the western approach - I don't think China can continue this indefinitely.
 
Cheers Ian I really should have a look but I know I'd find it too infuriating. I flicked it on briefly and there was Alice Roberts talking about public engagement with science - the same Alice Roberts who claimed that the government were performing an unethical experiment on the population by deliberately infecting us with the virus, and accused Public Health England of suppressing data by timing its release with a football match. These people are the worst thing to happen to the public understanding of science since the MMR fiasco, which some of their pals happened to have a hand in.

She was quite right, of course. You're really not that naive so drop the pretence...
 
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