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Coronavirus - the new strain XII

Discussion in 'off topic' started by russel, Oct 15, 2020.

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  1. timH

    timH pfm Member

    what cure?
     
  2. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    We have to keep case numbers down so that the nhs can treat heart patients and all the others. This is the whole point of lockdowns and I think it's being forgotten...
     
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  3. mandryka

    mandryka pfm Member

    Yes well all those teenagers on top of each other licking and spitting on each other.
     
  4. gintonic

    gintonic 50 shades of grey pussy cats

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  5. Seanm

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    Seanm pfm Member

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  8. hc25036

    hc25036 pfm Member

    The issue will be to draw the line between ‘individual ethic’ and ‘group ethic’ (as one of my old bosses used to describe it). Any trial involves some risk to those taking part, so there has to be a balance between the risk to the individual (which must be minimised and explained to them clearly before they sign up) and the potential benefit to society.

    At the moment, some may argue that a larger (but explained) individual risk might be more acceptable than, say, this time last year.

    I still wouldn’t want to be the decision-maker though.
     
  9. tiggers

    tiggers pfm Member

    Well, FWIW he has my respect and it's typical of Manchester to stand against the tyranny of the south... again! I see the midday deadline has passed but nothing from the Bullingdon cockstick as yet!
     
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  10. gintonic

    gintonic 50 shades of grey pussy cats

    it'll be tough call. I have sat on an NHS REC and chair an Ethics Committee at my employer - and i wouldn't want to have to make that call.
     
  11. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    Nah they're still arguing about the money. Tier 3 is 'worth' 80 quid a head, Burnham's trying to get a ton and the Treasury doesn't want to allow the precedent.
     
  12. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    Minister for Corruption, Trough Feeding & Donor Backhanders Robert Jenrik has just announced that no communication from Manchester has been received, and therefore the Tory Party is at war with the north of England. As is usual.
     
  13. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    "The Greater Manchester leaders agreed to reduce their request to £65m but this was rejected by Jenrick shortly after 2pm, effectively killing the negotiations." Seems there never was a negotiation at all, just take it or leave it from the Government...

    https://www.theguardian.com/politic...0898b435918388#block-5f8ee6cc8f0898b435918388
     
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  14. tqineil

    tqineil Ubi fides ibi lux et robur

    If they were given what Liverpool District got, wouldn't that be >£65M?
     
  15. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    Guardian's saying that £60m is the same... Special pleading was always doomed to fail, it was just the usual Blairite tokenism from Burnham.
     
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    tqineil Ubi fides ibi lux et robur

  17. puddlesplasher

    puddlesplasher pfm Member

    One thing that annoys me is this constant north south divide. I understand completely why the dislike the south as I think they get a raw deal. I live in the south east and dislike the ruling elected. They seem to be biased towards London more than anywhere. I don't know what other countries are like, but we don't just have so many from the same school, they were in the same class. Like the latest train line starts from London. I think if it's that good start in the North East and North West and come down to the Midlands.
     
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  18. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    Your guess is as good as mine, maybe the T&T money makes the difference?

    "The £60m would be in addition to £22m for test and trace and enhanced enforcement, which is proportionate to the per capita deals struck by Merseyside and Lancashire authorities last week."
     
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  19. tuga

    tuga Legal Alien

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  20. gavreid

    gavreid pfm Member

    Sh1t, 241 deaths reported today up from 80 (the increase is in England and not down to the other nations), 21 331 cases (up 12%), hospitals data not updated again...
     
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