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I don't recall house moving being banned, nor do I remember having visitors being banned. Richard is curtain twitching, winding himself up, and completely missing the bigger picture.

(Brian's "like" also registered).
The bigger picture is everyone needs to act to prevent this getting worse than it already is. Blaming the government for everything is just missing the point that we are ALL responsible for how this plays out.
 
If you have to use quotation marks, be a good chap and have the decency to cite where they have come from. Otherwise, it looks like you’re making it up.

I posted the article about 20 minutes before. What I did was take the learnings out of the article to make it a bit easier.
 
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The bigger picture is everyone needs to act to prevent this getting worse than it already is. Blaming the government for everything is just missing the point that we are ALL responsible for how this plays out.
I’m really not responsible for, e.g., freezing Public Health England and local authorities out of test and trace. Nope. Wasn’t me. Eat out to help out: not my idea. Ending furlough then cobbling together a half -arsed version of the German system: I tried to stop this, but you know what? Sunak didn’t listen.

We have zero responsibility for any of the obviously stupid and/or corrupt decisions that led to this massacre. Zero power. Fcked if I’m accepting any blame, won’t listen to Tories pointing their fingers at anyone else either.
 
I’m really not responsible for, e.g., freezing Public Health England and local authorities out of test and trace. Nope. Wasn’t me. Eat out to help out: not my idea. Ending furlough then cobbling together a half -arsed version of the German system: I tried to stop this, but you know what? Sunak didn’t listen.

We have zero responsibility for any of the obviously stupid and/or corrupt decisions that led to this massacre. Zero power. Fcked if I’m accepting any blame, won’t listen to Tories pointing their fingers at anyone else either.
WE ALL have responsibility, your decision to distance or not is your decision. If you can’t accept that then we are doomed.
 
The bigger picture is everyone needs to act to prevent this getting worse than it already is. Blaming the government for everything is just missing the point that we are ALL responsible for how this plays out.

WE ALL have responsibility, your decision to distance or not is your decision. If you can’t accept that then we are doomed.

I need to be led. I can’t make my own decisions. :rolleyes:
 
Superb indication of how Hancock and Williamson have no understanding of anything vaguely numerical on this week's More or less.

It's concerning false positives.

Stephen

I listened to that yesterday morning on R4 as I had a coffee/morning roll at Greggs.... almost spat my drink out when they demonstrated statistically that Julia Hartley-Brewer is probably thick! :)
 
WE ALL have responsibility, your decision to distance or not is your decision. If you can’t accept that then we are doomed.
I can do it. Many can’t. Can’t afford to. Aren’t allowing to. Can’t get tested. Don’t understand the rules. All that’s on the government.

Some simply can’t be arsed, because they put their own preferences over any sense of solidarity or responsibly to others. That’s on this government and the governments of the last 4 decades.
 
Some simply can’t be arsed, because they put their own preferences over any sense of solidarity or responsibly to others. That’s on this government and the governments of the last 4 decades.

I've seen some utter nonsense posted on the net in my time but this is close to taking the prize! The "it's always someone else's fault" mentality personified!
 
I’m really not responsible for, e.g., freezing Public Health England and local authorities out of test and trace. Nope. Wasn’t me. Eat out to help out: not my idea. Ending furlough then cobbling together a half -arsed version of the German system: I tried to stop this, but you know what? Sunak didn’t listen.

We have zero responsibility for any of the obviously stupid and/or corrupt decisions that led to this massacre. Zero power. Fcked if I’m accepting any blame, won’t listen to Tories pointing their fingers at anyone else either.
I sit aside 2 contrasting families. One side a benefit scamming convicted drug dealing drug addict & his motley crew of undesirables, the other, a hard working couple who abide by the law & work long hours & are no problems to anyone. I face a couple who work for the NHS, one being a paramedic, who sit alongside another hard working civilized family of 4. Virus? what virus? Over the last 6 months i had to check there actually was a virus spreading the globe as it seemed to have passed us by. None of them have acted accordingly with homes regularly visited by outside families & when at the height of "lockdown" all (NHS workers aside) were working full time in non essential jobs.
Letting the public off the hook won't wash if you live in the real world where many are going about their day like it's all been over for months. No mask wearing anywhere in my area. Shops are packed with people up close & personal, no masks, schools are packed with parents, teachers & pupils up close & personal. We should not have to rely on Government strategy to make sensible decisions to protect those who need protecting but many seem incapable of grasping that the fundamental measures put in place are as much about protecting others as they are about protecting ourselves . It doesn't take much to put on a mask for half an hour around Sainsbury's to prevent the spread. Over this last 6 months i have had my worse fears borne out, that we are a country amassed with self serving individuals who care little about their fellow man & refuse to sacrifice their selfish needs to help those suffering around them.
 
Can’t make my own tests. Can’t pull wages out of my arse. Can’t fund the people who live around me to take time off work. Can’t extend furlough. Can’t reorganise the care system.
Can take precautions, can wear mask, can avoid contact.
 
Can’t make my own tests. Can’t pull wages out of my arse. Can’t fund the people who live around me to take time off work. Can’t extend furlough. Can’t reorganise the care system.

You are quite right, of course. But I’ve never said you were not right with your comments regarding the inconsistency of, and poor decision making by the government. What you do do is seem to totally abstain from any personal responsibility with your ‘government is to blame for all’ argument.

I can decide who I hug and socialise with. I can decide which mask fits. I can comply with the health and safety requirements of the schools I teach in. I can choose to look after myself by taking some personal responsibility. Fortunately due to working in the public sector, I’m ok financially. Etc.

ps consent will only go so far, and with so many. If you want to enforce something, then consider all the angles in order to do so. I’m very surprised no-one on here seized on my comments regarding exemption from wearing face masks not being accountable.
 
The bigger picture is everyone needs to act to prevent this getting worse than it already is. Blaming the government for everything is just missing the point that we are ALL responsible for how this plays out.

The trouble is that I am beginning to wonder if there is possibly a certain type of person that wants this to continue to play out badly as it gives them the continued ammunition for their agenda! Hope I'm wrong!
 
I sit aside 2 contrasting families. One side a benefit scamming convicted drug dealing drug addict & his motley crew of undesirables, the other, a hard working couple who abide by the law & work long hours & are no problems to anyone. I face a couple who work for the NHS, one being a paramedic, who sit alongside another hard working civilized family of 4. Virus? what virus? Over the last 6 months i had to check there actually was a virus spreading the globe as it seemed to have passed us by. None of them have acted accordingly with homes regularly visited by outside families & when at the height of "lockdown" all (NHS workers aside) were working full time in non essential jobs.
Letting the public off the hook won't wash if you live in the real world where many are going about their day like it's all been over for months. No mask wearing anywhere in my area. Shops are packed with people up close & personal, no masks, schools are packed with parents, teachers & pupils up close & personal. We should not have to rely on Government strategy to make sensible decisions to protect those who need protecting but many seem incapable of grasping that the fundamental measures put in place are as much about protecting others as they are about protecting ourselves . It doesn't take much to put on a mask for half an hour around Sainsbury's to prevent the spread. Over this last 6 months i have had my worse fears borne out, that we are a country amassed with self serving individuals who care little about their fellow man & refuse to sacrifice their selfish needs to help those suffering around them.
Are you employed in a school?
If not how do you know schools are “packed with parents”?
The ones round here won’t let them over the threshold.
 
Are you employed in a school?
If not how do you know schools are “packed with parents”?
The ones round here won’t let them over the threshold.

Quite. I supervise 32 trainers going into primary schools. Parents are carefully marshalled in all schools that I’ve been to so far this term.
 
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