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Coronavirus: Pubs 'may need to shut' to allow schools to reopen

Discussion in 'off topic' started by George J, Aug 1, 2020.

  1. Marchbanks

    Marchbanks Hat and Beard member

    I have to say The Shat looks as if he’s having a tough time keeping a straight face there.

    Well, as any FZ fan will tell you, when God created the poodle he was trying to build a schnauzer, but he, er, fouled up.
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  2. PhilofCas

    PhilofCas pfm Member

  3. Woodface

    Woodface pfm Member

    There are many ways to limit social interaction. Kids need to be in school, if they have to bring in other measures to facilitate this then I think that is perfectly reasonable.

    Some pubs have adapted brilliantly & deserve the chance to stay open, some may have to close.
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  4. sean99

    sean99 pfm Member

    Come September they'll close themselves.
  5. gintonic

    gintonic 50 shades of grey pussy cats

    no not really, labs and tutorials yes
  6. Vinny

    Vinny pfm Member

    Some seriously crap logic involved, although at one level it is absolutely right. The same logic would also suggest that all people over 60 are killed. Both ideas are nonsense.

    If the young really are such minor vectors, as claimed, whether they at school or not, matters not. If there is a trade to be had school v. pubs etc., that implies that both are significant vectors.

    That said, people are seemingly ignoring common-sense distancing more and more, not least in pubs and the like.
    Sue Pertwee-Tyr likes this.
  7. mandryka

    mandryka pfm Member

    I think the idea must be that the trade off is between pubs and school for older kids, say high school age plus. Bur who can say? The professor who made the announcement hasn’t revealed his thinking, only a rough and ready statement of his conclusions.

    And anyway, why can’t proper safe social distancing be vigorously implemented in pubs? Everyone seated and served, for example. Landlords implement closing time for fear of losing their licence, they can enforce social distancing.
  8. Vinny

    Vinny pfm Member

    Because lots of people, especially the 20-30's, are getting sick of the faff.

    I also suspect that most pubs would be loss-making if they stuck precisely to the rules, unless they had large gardens and the weather stayed good. They'd also need doormen/bouncers.
  9. russel

    russel ./_dazed_and_confused

    Much as I enjoy alcohol I find it amazing that people think in a pandemic that recreational drug consumption is as important as schooling children, sure you can reduce transmission in pubs but it will still take place. If you want to stop whining about pubs let people grow their own marijuana, they won’t complain about being pubs being shut because they won’t be bothered.
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  10. Vinny

    Vinny pfm Member

    Prediction - infection rates in the general public will continue to trickle northwards and deaths associated with C19 will slowly but slowly head the same way.

    Beyond that, I'll not be tempted as rebellion amongst the masses of ill-educated and uncaring is tricky to predict, as is the response of the/any Government, and the response of Joe Average to that.
  11. martin clark

    martin clark pinko bodger

    'martin, if we'd said ''Coronavirus' - we'd have had a panic on our hands, on the 4th of July...'

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  12. Cav

    Cav pfm Member

    I have been to my local daily since it chose to open and all seems to be well ordered and sensible. Canadians may be different....
  13. Joe P

    Joe P certified Buffologist / mod


    We've had fewer contract and die from COVID-19 than the UK has after correcting for population size, so it would appear so.

    Population: 38 million
    Confirmed COVID-19 cases: 118k
    Deaths from COVID-19: 9k

    Population: 66 million
    Confirmed COVID-19 case: 305k
    Deaths from COVID-19: 46k

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  14. stephen bennett

    stephen bennett Mr Enigma

    University students are adults and we cannot force them to come to classes.

    The only sanction we have is when a course is accredited in some way and non attendance breaks the requirements for that accreditation.

    But even then students can decide not to attend.

  15. lordsummit

    lordsummit Moderator

    I understand that, however I would have thought the 9k a year being spent by students would focus their minds!

    It was more the suggestion made by a university lecturer of this parish that teachers should be locked away so that he could continue to go to the pub that raised eyebrows. My eyebrows were then jacked up even higher by the response that his students didn’t turn up to lectures and tutorials so it would be ok for him to continue to free-range in the community. It’s this I have an issue with. I’m not starting a teachers vs lecturers war promise!!
  16. zygote23

    zygote23 pfm Member

  17. Big Tabs

    Big Tabs pants up, knee down


    Do you have children?

    Do you go to the pub?
  18. Barrymagrec

    Barrymagrec pfm Member

    Has anyone thought of the Cameron solution? - just leave the kids in the pub.
    Snufkin and TheDecameron like this.
  19. tqineil

    tqineil Ubi fides ibi lux et robur

    Went with SWMBO to my local last night for a couple of hours or so and a decent bit of nosh. The Landlord been operating since July 4th with just below 40% capacity and isn't open Mon/Tues and not til 4pm Wed/Thurs.... just about keeping afloat he told me. Aslo said if he has to re-close for anything over a month, he's go under and new licenees will have to be found, sad news
  20. Sue Pertwee-Tyr

    Sue Pertwee-Tyr Well, I can dream, can’t I?

    It’s not just about the drinking. It’s also livelihoods.

    It’s also well-being and mental health, people are finding the isolation increasingly difficult.
    tqineil likes this.

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