I suspect that was a factor in Morrissey’s journey to fascism. A misplaced belief in Islam as inherently more homophobic than Christianity, leading him to fall under the influence of violently anti-Islam outfits like Britain First.homophobia has been pretty much endemic in Christianity, Islam, Judaism etc throughout history and countless numbers have been murdered over the centuries as a result.
Well, I guess it still shouldn’t be a problem for a professional taylor of today to say that the German uniforms were the best, for the technical reasons he understands. Or for a military engineer to say that, say, the Blitzkrieg strategy was ahead of its time in Europe. Or that the V2 were a brilliant technical achievement. I can’t help it, they were.
Likewise, a singer should be allowed to say the same things. Why not ?
Yes it’s true that companies that contributed to the Nazi war effort exist and prosper still, and you could also cite the fact that the US was complicit in assisting Nazis to evade justice in return for cooperation with the development of U.S. military technology. That however should not obscure the fact that comments in relation to the stylishness or quality of Nazi uniforms is simply crass, insensitive and offensive.IIRC Hugo Boss made those coats, and they are still held in very high regard as a brand, as are BMW, Mercedes etc all of whom made killing machines for the Nazi Reich. The one that amuses me the most is the VW Beetle’s transformation from Hitler’s People’s Car to hippy peace icon in only a couple of decades. Rightfully so too, it is a design classic.
IIRC Hugo Boss made those coats, and they are still held in very high regard as a brand, as are BMW, Mercedes etc all of whom made killing machines for the Nazi Reich. The one that amuses me the most is the VW Beetle’s transformation from Hitler’s People’s Car to hippy peace icon in only a couple of decades. Rightfully so too, it is a design classic.
Let's agree on inappropriate in our times. By (shaky) comparison, it comes to my mind that I'm not telling a 20-stonish woman that she's fat either, even though she sure is a little chubby.That however should not obscure the fact that comments in relation to the stylishness or quality of Nazi uniforms is simply crass, insensitive and offensive.
If she'd killed six million Jews, maybe.Let's agree on inappropriate in our times. By (shaky) comparison, it comes to my mind that I'm not telling a 20-stonish woman that she's fat either, even though she sure is a little chubby.
Yes it’s true that companies that contributed to the Nazi war effort exist and prosper still, and you could also cite the fact that the US was complicit in assisting Nazis to evade justice in return for cooperation with the development of U.S. military technology. That however should not obscure the fact that comments in relation to the stylishness or quality of Nazi uniforms is simply crass, insensitive and offensive.
Looks like sense has been seen.
IIRC Hugo Boss made those coats, and they are still held in very high regard as a brand, as are BMW, Mercedes etc all of whom made killing machines for the Nazi Reich.
Not quite the same thing at all but I thought it was interesting Fred Perry went as far as stopping sales of their t-shirts in the US because they were so unhappy they'd been adopted as uniform by the far-right Proud Boys.
I don’t disagree. My point was purely in relation to comments about Nazi uniforms as ‘stylish’ (of which I’m not accusing you). I wasn’t actually aware Ferry had made those comments but I’ve heard similar from others. Whether it’s technically accurate from a sartorial point of view or not is entirely irrelevant. A Hugo Boss coat in and of itself is, of course, subject to the same historical filters you cite. That is entirely different from flippant comments in relation Nazis.History is complex and multi-faceted and surely one can separate the interesting out without simply applying a simple binary good/bad filter.
What a plonker.Looks like sense has been seen.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2...an-who-attempted-to-sell-single-bootlegged-cd
More to the point they ran their businesses with slave labour from concentration camps. And Ferdinand Porsche was an officer in the SS.