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Christmas Wine II

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Dogberry, Nov 27, 2020.

  1. mandryka

    mandryka pfm Member

    “Thin” is exactly the word to describe my experience with a Tondonia 2008. I’d assumed they needed more time so I shoved them into a dark corner in the cellar to be forgotten about for another 10 years. But maybe 2008 was just a bad vintage. The experience put me off riojas a bit actually.
     
  2. wacko

    wacko pfm Member

    ^^ Alion is probably the best Spanish wine I have had.
    Waitrose have a good Muga.
    I have Bosconia 2008 not Tondonia. Not sure I would describe it as thin, although 2008 is known as a 'cool' vintage. Did you give it enough air ?
     
  3. mandryka

    mandryka pfm Member

    I guess so, it was open for two days. It was perfectly drinkable and very characterful, for all I know it's supposed to taste like that!
     
  4. Marchbanks

    Marchbanks Hat and Beard member

    It is. My deliberately terse CT review says ‘excellent’ but I posted a full ramble
    here should anyone wish to see it.
     
  5. BTC3

    BTC3 pfm Member

    I’m a big fan of Alión. I have various vintages up to 2011 or 12, and so confidently ordered a bottle of it at one of the Hawksmoor places, with a customer, a ‘15 was brought to the table. It was thin and insipid, so we called over the sommelier for an opinion on whether it was dodgy or we were just not tasting it properly. Som agreed it didn’t taste right, so brought another one, and another one, one more for luck, and a bottle of Ygay. I forget what year it was, but he gave us the bottle at the price of Alión, and we split the difference on the second bottle. I seem to recall Ygay being in the £40isb range in the ‘90s, not the £100+ they seem to be now, but they are great.
    On ageing, the oldest wine I’ve tasted was ‘25 Ygay. I can only describe it as brown wine, it it was delicious. As was the bottle of ‘66 CVNE Imperial we opened in ‘95; also brown, but perfectly quaffable. So they can age!
     
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  6. wacko

    wacko pfm Member

    ^ Not sure of the vintage as I drank the Alion about 8 years ago before I was even on CT. I suspect they were 2002-05. I got them direct from Spain and remember waiting with some trepidation...Ygay too expensive at £140 retail so I'll swerve on that.
    Off to Italy this week for a while so using it as an excuse to open a Roc de Cambes today.
    edit: second bottle of Roc didn't impress as much as the first. Definitely prefer my Musar 1998 (or 2003) which costs less.
    Since MB and Dogberry always have impeccable music with their wine I will go sentimental with thinking of a place. Need a clue ? White falcon. No it is not jazz.
     
    Last edited: Aug 8, 2022
  7. Marchbanks

    Marchbanks Hat and Beard member

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    Burgaud’s Vignes de Lantignié 2019. Not bad. Less fruity but a little more complex than Ronsay (which is cheaper) but not as good as l’Ancien (which is the same price.) That’s all you need to know really - and I didn’t mention silky tannins, crunchy fruit or any kind of number. Eat your heart out, Jeb.

    This was paired with Slapp Happy’s Desperate Straights, thanks to the Hat thread and the album’s opening track.
     
    Last edited: Aug 8, 2022
  8. eternumviti

    eternumviti Wittering on the Vine

    I've always been a bit underwhelmed by Burgaud. I find the wines a bit 'solid'.

    I like the glass.
     
  9. Dogberry

    Dogberry pfm Member

    Scorchio here.
    Good value ,full of flavour.
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    Here's a tune for @Bigman.

     
  10. andrew d

    andrew d pfm Member

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    Been on hols in Croatia and wasn't sure what to expect. Plenty of Plavac Mali in the supermarket and restaurants, very moreish! The £5-£10 range was very acceptable and pushing the boat out at £15 this was a veritable bargain!
     
  11. eternumviti

    eternumviti Wittering on the Vine

    I like Marcarini, I keep the wines sometimes. I had a beautiful bottle of their Dolcetto in a brilliant backstreet restaurant in Alba just before the pandemic. Family run, no menu, shared tables, as good as it gets.
     
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2022
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  12. Dogberry

    Dogberry pfm Member

    From my "extensive " wine library I can tell you that MB(the other MB) had a bottle of Dolcetto d'Alba Fontannaza Marcarini 1998 with Angelo Gaga
    at their favourite restaurant di Cesari in Piedmont.Deep,velvety,good fruit,attractive despite its youthfulness.Nov.1999.
     
  13. eternumviti

    eternumviti Wittering on the Vine

    Gosh! Who is the other MB? Surely there could only be one?
     
  14. Dogberry

    Dogberry pfm Member

    You must have met him surely.
     
  15. Dogberry

    Dogberry pfm Member

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    Full colour and flavour excellent rosé almost as
    dense taste as the Pradeaux Bandol.
     
  16. eternumviti

    eternumviti Wittering on the Vine

    C'mon, now. The tension is unbearable.

    Oh, Broadbean. Yes, I met him, but he's pouring from the great decanter in the sky now, bless him.
     
  17. Marchbanks

    Marchbanks Hat and Beard member

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    I had been expecting a Burn night, but I was overruled. “Chemise rose, vin rosé” Gaston explained. “And the chauve-souris are flying tonight.” I was a little taken aback. Was this some kind of biodynamic thing? He wasn’t saying. I think my new sommelier may be somewhere in a triangle bounded by David Lynch, Brian Eno and Captain Beefheart.

    Anyway, the Joguet Rosé 2019 is excellent. Nicely forceful and acidic with a good taste of pear drop fruitiness. Only one left, which is sad.

    This was paired earlier with Mingus’ In Europe Vol II. I discovered it on my HDD tonight and don’t know how it got there (officer.) But it is fantastic, and now I want to hear Vol I, which I don't seem to have, er, well - have.
     
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  18. mandryka

    mandryka pfm Member

    I want to get a delivery from Morrisons but I can’t get the order up to their £40 minimum. Has anyone had any good experiences with their wine?
     
  19. Dogberry

    Dogberry pfm Member

  20. mjw

    mjw pfm Member

    Their Gewürztraminer stands out for around a tenner, especially with their buy three get 25% off offer (so buy six) but I do acknowledge it’s a bit niche for food pairing.
     
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