Never tried the rosé, but I have a number of their various sweet Chenins. The only one I’ve tried to date is the CdL 2018, which according to CT I said was ‘very good’. Sorry, I get carried away and lapse into hyperbole sometimes. The Vinatis price for the St Aubin is very good, in fact in France it is less than I paid direct from the Roche Moreau stand at a Wine Fair. Bastards.Anyway a nice full rosé from domaine Roche Moreau.
That looks a tempting price.Never tried the rosé, but I have a number of their various sweet Chenins. The only one I’ve tried to date is the CdL 2018, which according to CT I said was ‘very good’. Sorry, I get carried away and lapse into hyperbole sometimes. The Vinatis price for the St Aubin is very good, in fact in France it is less than I paid direct from the Roche Moreau stand at a Wine Fair. Bastards.
As a reward for slumming it a couple of days ago a J J Prum Kabinett today
Is that a dry Viognier or a semi-dry/semi-sweet?
I’ve just spotted this, which I take to be a sly dig at my perceived Francocentricity. Country, I mean. No, I have never tasted Raúl’s wines. But as he has a long beard he is bound to be a fine chap and by extension an excellent winemaker, and so one day I will. But Vinatis isn’t the cheapest place for the one you mention - it costs less at Decántolo (which appears to be a Spanish version of Vinatis) or Wine Direct, to name but two.Knowing your wide tastes any thoughts on this
https://www.vinatis.co.uk/54080-ultreia-saint-jacques-2020-raul-perez-bodegas-y-vinedos
I’ve just spotted this, which I take to be a sly dig at my perceived Francocentricity. Country, I mean. No, I have never tasted Raúl’s wines. But as he has a long beard he is bound to be a fine chap and by extension an excellent winemaker, and so one day I will. But Vinatis isn’t the cheapest place for the one you mention - it costs less at Decántolo (which appears to be a Spanish version of Vinatis) or Wine Direct, to name but two.
Decántolo looks good and I'd be tempted if someone who knows about Spanish wine could make some recommendations from there.
As ever, a matter of budget and taste. I prefer Ribera del Duero and Priorat over Rioja. I find them smoother, with a broader range of flavours than many of the Riojas that are regularly available, but there are some excellent ones of those. In the £40/50 mark, Alión is fantastic; and it’s bigger siblings, for (a lot) more cash, are also great. The suggestions above are also good, but I went off Ramon Bilbao some time ago. Other names to look out for are Tondonia, Marqués de Cáceres, Marqués de Murrieta, the “numbered” Rioja Alta wines (890, 904); LAN’s “a mano” and “Culmen” are very good. From Ribera, I’ve recently enjoyed Pago de los Capellanes, and Pago de Carraovejas.Decántolo looks good and I'd be tempted if someone who knows about Spanish wine could make some recommendations from there.
As ever, a matter of budget and taste. I prefer Ribera del Duero and Priorat over Rioja. I find them smoother, with a broader range of flavours than many of the Riojas that are regularly available, but there are some excellent ones of those. In the £40/50 mark, Alión is fantastic; and it’s bigger siblings, for (a lot) more cash, are also great. The suggestions above are also good, but I went off Ramon Bilbao some time ago. Other names to look out for are Tondonia, Marqués de Cáceres, Marqués de Murrieta, the “numbered” Rioja Alta wines (890, 904); LAN’s “a mano” and “Culmen” are very good. From Ribera, I’ve recently enjoyed Pago de los Capellanes, and Pago de Carraovejas.
At the start of lockdown I was introduced to a wine from Madrid. I was born and brought up there, and at the time the wine was rough, not to say rubbish. However, this stuff, from Bodegas Licinia was eye opening. I sent @Marchbanks a bottle to try, and he might remember whether it was worth chasing down? Toro is another region to explore, Numanthia is, I think, one of the vineyards to look into.
That’s my take on reds. For whites, which I rarely drink, I tend to go for Albariño, but white Riojas can be fantastic. I’ve recently had Tondonia blanco 2005 and 8, and some 2018 Flor de Muga (Muga reds are also worth looking at).
For rosé, I think there’s a Tondonia which would be worth looking at, and I think we’ve discussed Pícaro del Águila - I know I offered to get you some if I did, but I’m afraid I haven’t bought much wine recently - which is worth looking into. It’s a clarete, a mix of red and white; I’m sure there must be others out there, but I haven’t looked very closely.
Lots to explore and enjoy.
Just buy anything from Rioja from the likes of Muriel, Cune, Ramon Bilbao et-al and go for a reserva not a grand reserve anything from 2015 really but you’ll struggle to find some IMO.
Personally I like plain old Rioja Joven or Rioja crianza.
I posted previously but the Muriel 2019 is really excellent from the coop for £6.50 I’ve been buying it all week.
I’ve two bottles of the imperial.
https://www.vinatis.co.uk/spanish-wines?colour[]=Red&manufacturers[]=CUNE&tri=4
The harvest ratings of the D.O.Ca. Rioja granted by its Regulating Council since its founding in 1926 are the following:
- 1925 Muy buena
- 1926 Mediana
- 1927 Mediana
- 1928 Muy buena
- 1929 Normal
- 1930 Mediana
- 1931 Muy buena
- 1932 Normal
- 1933 Normal
- 1934 Excelente
- 1935 Muy buena
- 1936 Normal
- 1937 Normal
- 1938 Mediana
- 1939 Normal
- 1940 Normal
- 1941 Buena
- 1942 Muy buena
- 1943 Buena
- 1944 Buena
- 1945 Buena
- 1946 Normal
- 1947 Muy buena
- 1948 Excelente
- 1949 Muy buena
- 1950 Normal
- 1951 Normal
- 1952 Excelente
- 1953 Mediana
- 1954 Buena
- 1955 Excelente
- 1956 Buena
- 1957 Normal
- 1958 Excelente
- 1959 Muy buena
- 1960 Buena
- 1961 Buena
- 1962 Muy buena
- 1963 Normal
- 1964 Excelente
- 1965 Mediana
- 1966 Normal
- 1967 Normal
- 1968 Muy buena
- 1969 Normal
- 1970 Muy buena
- 1971 Mediana
- 1972 Mediana
- 1973 Buena
- 1974 Buena
- 1975 Muy buena
- 1976 Buena
- 1977 Normal
- 1978 Muy buena
- 1979 Normal
- 1980 Buena
- 1981 Muy buena
- 1982 Excelente
- 1983 Buena
- 1984 Normal
- 1985 Buena
- 1986 Buena
- 1987 Muy buena
- 1988 Buena
- 1989 Buena
- 1990 Buena
- 1991 Muy buena
- 1992 Buena
- 1993 Buena
- 1994 Excelente
- 1995 Excelente
- 1996 Muy buena
- 1997 Buena
- 1998 Muy buena
- 1999 Buena
- 2000 Buena
- 2001 Excelente
- 2002 Buena
- 2003 Buena
- 2004 Excelente
- 2005 Excelente
- 2006 Muy buena
- 2007 Muy buena
- 2008 Muy buena
- 2009 Muy buena
- 2010 Excelente
- 2011 Excelente
- 2012 Muy buena
- 2013 Buena
- 2014 Buena
- 2015 Muy buena
- 2016 Muy buena
- 2017 Muy buena
- 2018 Buena
- 2019 Excelente
- 2020 Muy buena
- 2021 Muy buena