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Cheap and simple upgrade to PC streaming?

Discussion in 'audio' started by Andy1912, Apr 13, 2014.

  1. mudlark

    mudlark nearly half a clue

    That's not correct at all. It is a high quality player/transport. It doesn't get bogged down with large libraries as, when used sensibly as a player, it doesn't handle a library. You are talking about the wrong end of the wire. The picoreplayer is a .... player. It sends instructions to the server and passes any music gently to the dac or preamp/amplifier. It does this without even breathing heavily as it's a ...player.
     
  2. Fox

    Fox The sound of one hoof clopping

    Odd, it doesn't get bogged down at all ime. That 900mhz ARM chews through data faster than the network port can feed it. Volumio is stripped back with no redundancy and with a snap on DAC or SPDIF/Toslink interface you have the best of all worlds; no sharing ethernet/usb with data, a galvanically isolated add on DAC for £30 with its own power regulator on the chip, uses i2s/i2c so no usb paranoia. it's win win for me. I have yet to hear anything better, when I do I'll buy it.
     
  3. Fox

    Fox The sound of one hoof clopping

    If you want you can have all your music on an SDXC card or on two usb cards or on all three you don't even need a network. You can plug a hard drive or SSD direct into the USB port, there are loads of possible configurations.

    Just don't use the standard audio output just yet, drivers with better SNR are coming now the audio driver API has been open sourced along with video but if you have a hdmi input on a DAC somewhere then you have HiRes bit perfect digital audio digital output as part of the hdmi video stream.

    This makes a lot of high end audio redundant. The mouse that witnessed the fall of the dinosaur era.

    I can see why trade sellers of esoteric digital hardware might be a bit miffed at it and will do the usual "damn with faint praise" trick or the "oh well, it's almost good enough, as a starter I suppose" trick that used to work with analogue and early CD players, but those days are over... Audio 24/192 is trivial to these DACs, less than £80 and you are good to go.

    Frankly I need to CAD up an obnoxiously reassuring heavy ally billet of 6083, polish it, add fricking ridiculous connectors and put an unnecessary OLED display somewhere and charge £5k for it, but I'm not feeling as dishonest as some people out there.
     
  4. topa

    topa Sans CDPs

    Yes, the Pi is cheap, but you need a powersupply,case,wifi-dongle,Digi-out-board to get it running. Add that up and a s/h Mini ITX won't be much more. I got my Fit-Pc2 for less than 100quid, it's not much bigger than the Pi, but has all that AND a 500gb hd built in. With Daphile it becomes a server AND streamer at the same time!!!
     
  5. Guest432

    Guest432 Guest

    ooh me wanty very muchy

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  6. Jo Sharp

    Jo Sharp Pulls on doors marked push

    Fox, is Volumio doing the volume control in the digital domain?
     
  7. Guest432

    Guest432 Guest

    He already has a dac so would be about £50 inc wifi dongle

    Pi - £25
    PSU - £5
    Case - £5
    SD card - £10
    wifi usb - £6
     
  8. Fox

    Fox The sound of one hoof clopping

    Also PSU in a mni itx is 35w at idle
    For a PI its 2w

    At present I am using a passive knob because I have an old one from TC electronics, full bitrate at 100, normal digital dithering volume otherwise I just adjust via the rocker on the iOS device or the web page.
     
  9. Guest432

    Guest432 Guest

    I also dual purpose mine so have 2x SD cards, one with volumio and with openelec so I can listen to music or watch films I haven't downloaded from the tinterweb.
     
  10. AndyU

    AndyU pfm Member

  11. ItemAudio

    ItemAudio Trade: Item Audio

    I didn't find the Pi much fun running XBMC and 40k tracks on a network, but I've not tried Volumio. I'd be sorry to lose album artwork . . .
     
  12. Whaleblue

    Whaleblue Southbound

    Does it do hires stuff? Looking for something like this to experiment with.
     
  13. Guest432

    Guest432 Guest

    May be your SD card, I swapped a cheapy one for a class 10 a while ago and just last weekend watched a 12GB 1080p rip of Pacific Rim and it didn't blip once.

    Openelec (XBMC) now has the Qobuz api plugin so you can listen to flac via that as well now.
     
  14. Fox

    Fox The sound of one hoof clopping


    In the blog you will see how he has changed the cable bend radius he no longer uses pillars and have moved the mount slightly, it uses a cradle rather than a pillar, I think he knows what he is doing, but he is awful uncommunicative.

    I too like the design. Simple, elegant, metal. Could be a pot plant stand or a place to put a thing.
     
  15. dss

    dss Musical Bons

    Probably not, it is mainly a HDTV device, but it does do lots of audio formats is it:

    Audio - MP3, WAV/PCM/LPCM, WMA, AAC, FLAC, MKA, AIF/AIFF, OGG, Dolby Digital, DTS

    Playlist - PLS, M3U, WPL


    OGG is important to me, I used to do a lot of OGG, and have many files like that there.

    DS
     
  16. Andy1912

    Andy1912 pfm Member

    That's a pity because I have one of them....
     
  17. Whaleblue

    Whaleblue Southbound

    OK, thanks DS.
     
  18. mudlark

    mudlark nearly half a clue

    the pi with a digi can play 24/192 files.

    It would be really good if people wouldn't make assumptions based on little knowledge.

    read this https://sites.google.com/site/picoreplayer/home

    There is a great deal to be said for the original squeezebox arrangement. A player and a separate server. A computer with a fan to keep the hdd cool can be used. This computer can be sighted away from your nice listening room/living room. a computer hdd can be easily backed up.
     
  19. Andy1912

    Andy1912 pfm Member

    Thanks everyone for your thoughts.
     

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