Cameron's dodgy deal with Murdoch

[clifftaylor]

Only Rothschild is Jewish. Blair, Murdoch, Cameron, Woolsey and Dick Cheney are not.

So why do you say 'them Jews again' eh?'

Genie energy is mainly a Jewish concern if Wiki is correct.

 

[Joe Hutch]

It's very interesting that Clarke would say Murdoch was loyal to Blair because of the Iraq war. It begs the question as to why Murdoch was so keen to see Iraq destroyed.

It also makes me wonder not just what promises Cameron made to Murdoch, but what promises Blair - who of course was big on foreign military intervention (Kosovo, Afghanistan and Iraq) - might have made to Murdoch in order to also get his support in 1997.

He didn't need to make any promises. The Tories were always going to lose in 1997, and Murdoch wouldn't want to be seen as backing a loser. You see this issue, as so many others, in binary terms; politician makes promises to press baron in return for newspaper backing. The reality is more complex, and in some ways more insidious. The press barons want to be on the winning side, partly so they can boast about it: 'It Was the Sun Wot Win It'. Once 'their' candidate is elected, each side has a vested interest in keeping the other sweet, so the politicians won't do anything to antagonise the press barons, and the press barons in turn will suppress critical coverage of the politicians. If/when the relationship sours, the dirt starts being dished.

This is how it's been for centuries. Anthony Trollope was writing about it back in the 1860s. One of the most heartening aspects of the las General Election was the way in which Corbyn succeeded to the extent he did despite the worst efforts of the Mail and co. If a party can win a General Election in the face of press opposition, there may be a chance to break the corrupt relationship that has been in place for so long.

 

[droodzilla]

On Corbyn:

1. Some voters definitely bought into the "Corbyn = Hard Left Terrorist" propaganda. And some were lifelong Labour voters. I know because I enountered them when I knocked on doors during the last election campaign. So the propaganda of the right-wing press has an effect, if only at the margins.

2. Joe, your logic suggests that the right-wing press will swing behind Corbyn if a Labour victory seems inevitable next time (assume for the sake of argument Corbyn is still leader). Do you really believe that?

 

[Sue Pertwee-Tyr]

I doubt the right wing press would shift left so much. NuLab managed it by shifting enough to the right for the press to be able to endorse it. I suspect the right wing press has another tactic to deploy in those cases. My expectation would be for constant carping fom the sidelines, the subtext being 'this would never have happened if you'd listened to us'.

 

[Philim]

Didn't Murdoch also swing all his papers to the left following shenanigans with Blair?

That's irrelevant here. The OP is about Tory corruption lol despite the fact that ken Clarke clearly indicates that dodgy dealings were the norm prior to his appointment and the fact that the ken Clarke ignored the suns instructions.

 

[TheDecameron]

Yes, Mr. Murdoch is a well known socialist ( compared with the Barclays perhaps).

 

[richardg]

I doubt the right wing press would shift left so much. NuLab managed it by shifting enough to the right for the press to be able to endorse it. I suspect the right wing press has another tactic to deploy in those cases. My expectation would be for constant carping fom the sidelines, the subtext being 'this would never have happened if you'd listened to us'.

I am expecting someone to point us in the direction of some grubby law getting passed that benefitted Murdoch. Not something as boring as that....

 

[TheDecameron]

Rich, I like how you think big. Sometimes big trees grow from little apples. Like the one Jeremy Hunt hid behind on his way to a Murdoch meet up.

 

[Joe Hutch]

2. Joe, your logic suggests that the right-wing press will swing behind Corbyn if a Labour victory seems inevitable next time (assume for the sake of argument Corbyn is still leader). Do you really believe that?

Not the Mail. Possibly The Times.

 

[TheDecameron]

Not the Mail. Possibly The Times.

This sounds like the sort of analysis arising from a Wapping horoscope. If Murdoch were to allow his malodorous organ to "back" Corbyn, it would and could only be a tactic to get his boy into the Tory leadership while Labour briefly enjoyed a spell in government, trying to prevent fatal damage from Brexit before Murdoch's boy gets in. We can only hope Jerry Hall puts an overdose of viagra in his wine glass.