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So we took back control so as not to implement any control?, brilliance beyond comprehension an awesome plan.
Brexit: give me a positive effect... XV
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So we took back control so as not to implement any control?, brilliance beyond comprehension an awesome plan.
eternumviti
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I've just had an email from our freight forwarders to the effect that as of yesterday most lorries are being stopped and checked, and if docs aren't in order the shipment is seized.
Last week: We need visas for EU HGV drivers to work in the UK. This week: Allowing EU HGV drivers to work in the UK would mean taking work from UK hauliers.
On Radio 4's WATO, Sarah Montague asked if Zadawi could name any other country that had instituted a "high wage, high productivity” economy. Tumble weed.
billo
pfm Member
Haulage group frozen out of Whitehall after being 'hijacked by Remainers' (msn.com)
So they are listening to business but, only if it agrees with them.
The Grant Shapps quote about leaking documents is priceless!
So they are listening to business but, only if it agrees with them.
The Grant Shapps quote about leaking documents is priceless!
tonerei
pfm Member
Ah being Tory you get special treatment EV or might that be a bit of fake news
or maybe you are just more up to date with current affairs then the following publications. https://www.euronews.com/2021/09/14...ecks-on-eu-imports-citing-supply-chain-issues
https://www.ft.com/content/e32dda1b-7dbe-454e-ab32-3d80604df431
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-58556453
You might want to check exactly what your freight forwarder means. We wouldn't want disinformation to get out there
matthewr
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She should have given him the examples of France and Germany.
eternumviti
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Ah being Tory you get special treatment EV or might that be a bit of fake news
https://www.euronews.com/2021/09/14...ecks-on-eu-imports-citing-supply-chain-issues
https://www.ft.com/content/e32dda1b-7dbe-454e-ab32-3d80604df431
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-58556453
You might want to check exactly what your freight forwarder means. We wouldn't want disinformation to get out there
I'm only reporting what our freight forwarder told us. If its been delayed, so much the better.
This is the message;
**URGENT MESSAGE FOR ALL CUSTOMERS IMPORTING FROM EUROPE**
UK Border Force and HMRC have been giving a grace period for UK entry to be completed after delivery.
Initially, this was going to change on 1st Jan 2022, but we were advised yesterday that the grace period is now over.
As of yesterday, most trucks being stopped and checked to ensure they have the UK entry completed on arrival.
If the UK Entry is not shown as completed, the stock will be seized by HMRC.
We have the processes in place but still having issues with lack of, or incorrect paperwork.
This is mainly UK agents not sending their invoice over on same day of loading, suppliers not sending their paperwork over within 2 hours of loading or missing information off the invoice.
To specify, the supplier/agent invoice MUST have the below information on it for each shipment.
· Full breakdown of the products
· ABV %
· Bottle size (litres)
· Sparkling?
· Value on all products, including samples and POS.
· Origin of wine / REX number
· Marked as organic if required.
· Supplier’s EU EORI
· Any champagne stock must have a Champagne Certificate
We can delay orders in some instances to avoid charges but not all so this cannot be relied upon.
If there is an option for the avoid charges for the customer, then we will act automatically.
If you are using a UK agent to purchase the stock, please advise their contact details to us when you send over the order so we can record this.
Any charges incurred due to lack of, or incorrect documentation will be passed onto the customer.
Thank you
Taking back Cointreau?
I doubt he would have had an answer to that either. Two EU countries with HWHP economies? Impossible.
Colin L
High-tech low-life
A fine article by William Keegan in the Grauniad
Many countries are experiencing economic problems associated with the pandemic and supply chain shortages, but none is in such a bad position as the UK.
This is entirely because of Brexit. Quite apart from the multiplicity of crises associated with the acute shortage of heavy goods vehicle drivers – pigs being culled, but not for eating, farmers pouring milk down the drain, queues for petrol, you name it – the economic self-harm is now showing up in the statistics, with the International Monetary Fund putting the UK bottom of its Group of Seven future growth league. This contrasts with our prime minister’s shallow claims that the UK is currently enjoying the fastest growth in the G7.
It is officially calculated that the output of goods and services in the economy will still be 3% lower next year than before the onset of the epidemic. Chancellor Sunak had to be dragged – screaming and shouting and badmouthing his business secretary, Kwasi Kwarteng, on the way – before agreeing to give minimal assistance to Britain’s desperate energy sector.
One of Sunak’s concerns is the concatenation of so many demands for funds from cabinet colleagues as budget day approaches. He is not helped by the fact that he espoused Brexit himself, thereby guaranteeing extra pressures on the finances from the mounting impact it is having on our trade and business investment – that is, the lack of it.
A YouGov poll indicates that 21% of respondents think Brexit is “going well” – as many as that! – and 53% think it is going badly. Only 53%? I was heartened to learn from my fellow journalist David Aaronovitch that a pro-EU lobby is “stirring” among the young. But David thinks it is going to be a long haul, as long as the decades it took fanatical Eurosceptics like Sir William Cash to achieve their dubious aims.
Many pro-Europeans seem to have given up hope. But I wonder. The damage is mounting, and all the signs are that it is going to get worse. There should come a time when a vast majority of this country will recognise that they have been “had”. Even Johnson’s mendacious administration can hardly rely on hiding indefinitely beneath the cover of Covid and other worldwide problems. At some stage the electorate will recognise that Brexit meant Brexit and constituted an attack on our freedom to do many things we previously took for granted.
I don’t see why it should take a generation of damage for this country to change its mind about Brexit. Let’s face it: it is rapidly threatening to be the biggest self-inflicted catastrophe since Suez. For younger readers, I should point out that Britain realised the limits of the arrogance that went with empire when it had to pull out of a misconceived joint venture with France in 1956 to prevent Egypt from nationalising the Suez canal. It had to pull out because the pound was collapsing and the Eisenhower government refused to support it.
It was a sad end to prime minister Anthony Eden’s career; his health suffered, and he went for a convalescent holiday in Goldeneye, the Jamaican retreat owned by the James Bond author Ian Fleming. The chancellor at the time was Harold Macmillan, who saw what was happening to the nation’s foreign currency reserves, and became known as the minister who was “first in and first out” in regard to support of the Suez venture. Macmillan succeeded Eden as prime minister.
The historical significance of this was that Macmillan realised that the UK’s future now lay in closer ties with continental Europe. His own efforts to join what was then known as the Common Market were thwarted by the opposition of France’s President de Gaulle. It was not until 1973 that we finally joined.
There is little doubt that, quite apart from the geopolitical advantages of being members of the EU, our economy benefited enormously. Growth improved, and, in economic terms, we essentially became a region of the EU under rules, such as the single market, that were drawn up in no small measure by the British. All that is being thrown into reverse. An economic omelette is being ruinously unscrambled.
Now, one of Macmillan’s favourite quotes was from Hilaire Belloc’s wonderful Cautionary Tales: “Always keep a-hold of nurse/For fear of finding something worse.”
Five years ago a tiny majority of those who voted opted for Brexit. The tragic thing was that a lot of people did not bother to vote, because (like Boris Johnson) they thought the nation would not be so stupid as to opt for “something worse”. Why, as my colleague Rafael Behr has discovered, even one Lord Frost, who will go down – and down – in history for trying to rewrite an agreement he himself negotiated, wrote in June 2016 about Brexit: “Even the best-case outcome can’t be as good as what we have now.”
Many countries are experiencing economic problems associated with the pandemic and supply chain shortages, but none is in such a bad position as the UK.
This is entirely because of Brexit. Quite apart from the multiplicity of crises associated with the acute shortage of heavy goods vehicle drivers – pigs being culled, but not for eating, farmers pouring milk down the drain, queues for petrol, you name it – the economic self-harm is now showing up in the statistics, with the International Monetary Fund putting the UK bottom of its Group of Seven future growth league. This contrasts with our prime minister’s shallow claims that the UK is currently enjoying the fastest growth in the G7.
It is officially calculated that the output of goods and services in the economy will still be 3% lower next year than before the onset of the epidemic. Chancellor Sunak had to be dragged – screaming and shouting and badmouthing his business secretary, Kwasi Kwarteng, on the way – before agreeing to give minimal assistance to Britain’s desperate energy sector.
One of Sunak’s concerns is the concatenation of so many demands for funds from cabinet colleagues as budget day approaches. He is not helped by the fact that he espoused Brexit himself, thereby guaranteeing extra pressures on the finances from the mounting impact it is having on our trade and business investment – that is, the lack of it.
A YouGov poll indicates that 21% of respondents think Brexit is “going well” – as many as that! – and 53% think it is going badly. Only 53%? I was heartened to learn from my fellow journalist David Aaronovitch that a pro-EU lobby is “stirring” among the young. But David thinks it is going to be a long haul, as long as the decades it took fanatical Eurosceptics like Sir William Cash to achieve their dubious aims.
Many pro-Europeans seem to have given up hope. But I wonder. The damage is mounting, and all the signs are that it is going to get worse. There should come a time when a vast majority of this country will recognise that they have been “had”. Even Johnson’s mendacious administration can hardly rely on hiding indefinitely beneath the cover of Covid and other worldwide problems. At some stage the electorate will recognise that Brexit meant Brexit and constituted an attack on our freedom to do many things we previously took for granted.
I don’t see why it should take a generation of damage for this country to change its mind about Brexit. Let’s face it: it is rapidly threatening to be the biggest self-inflicted catastrophe since Suez. For younger readers, I should point out that Britain realised the limits of the arrogance that went with empire when it had to pull out of a misconceived joint venture with France in 1956 to prevent Egypt from nationalising the Suez canal. It had to pull out because the pound was collapsing and the Eisenhower government refused to support it.
It was a sad end to prime minister Anthony Eden’s career; his health suffered, and he went for a convalescent holiday in Goldeneye, the Jamaican retreat owned by the James Bond author Ian Fleming. The chancellor at the time was Harold Macmillan, who saw what was happening to the nation’s foreign currency reserves, and became known as the minister who was “first in and first out” in regard to support of the Suez venture. Macmillan succeeded Eden as prime minister.
The historical significance of this was that Macmillan realised that the UK’s future now lay in closer ties with continental Europe. His own efforts to join what was then known as the Common Market were thwarted by the opposition of France’s President de Gaulle. It was not until 1973 that we finally joined.
There is little doubt that, quite apart from the geopolitical advantages of being members of the EU, our economy benefited enormously. Growth improved, and, in economic terms, we essentially became a region of the EU under rules, such as the single market, that were drawn up in no small measure by the British. All that is being thrown into reverse. An economic omelette is being ruinously unscrambled.
Now, one of Macmillan’s favourite quotes was from Hilaire Belloc’s wonderful Cautionary Tales: “Always keep a-hold of nurse/For fear of finding something worse.”
Five years ago a tiny majority of those who voted opted for Brexit. The tragic thing was that a lot of people did not bother to vote, because (like Boris Johnson) they thought the nation would not be so stupid as to opt for “something worse”. Why, as my colleague Rafael Behr has discovered, even one Lord Frost, who will go down – and down – in history for trying to rewrite an agreement he himself negotiated, wrote in June 2016 about Brexit: “Even the best-case outcome can’t be as good as what we have now.”
wulbert
pfm Member
From Bella Caledonia website today:
John Davis 17th October 2021 at 12:01 pm
"They told us that we would keep our own Freedom of Movement rights (Johnson). They claimed that we could cut red tape if we left (Vote Leave). They promised no border down the Irish sea (Johnson, Gove), that we would remain in the Single Market (Hannan, Johnson, Leadsom) and have an even better deal (Vote Leave), that there was no threat to the student Erasmus scheme (Johnson), that shopping bills would be cut (Paterson, Rees-Mogg) and there would be no shortages (Gove, Farage, Raab). They promised 350 million pounds a week to the NHS (Vote Leave), with no downside to Brexit (Davis), and that there would be no big bill but a windfall (Braverman). They said we should ignore the pessimists and the merchants of doom (Johnson) and that the country would prosper mightily (Johnson) and that we would be thriving in 2021 (Hannan).
They lied. They knew they would lose if they told the truth, so they lied to win the vote. For Cummings it was a game. For Johnson it was for self-promotion. For others it was for political or career reasons or from an irrational hatred of the EU driven by an outdated ideology. They relied on the public lack of understanding of the benefits of membership and the actual democratic processes of the EU, and in doing so they have given away our rights as Europeans, damaged our economy and diminished our international voice. The evidence of the damage being caused is all around – we are now living it.
So how are you doing, five years on, what with all that prospering and thriving? Who can still think it was worth leaving the EU for all the unachieved advantages, the undisclosed opportunities. Do they understand yet that they were misled for the sake of a Tory factional ideology, and that people were manipulated by a group of self-serving Westminster Tory egotists, ideologues, fantasists and career opportunists, backed by a right-wing press pushing their own agenda for profit, with the consequence of ruin to the country and the future of so many families?
Now they want to blame everything on the virus. Not because it’s legitimate, but because it provides useful cover amid the public confusion they themselves have created. Good for a while, good for papering over the cracks while the foundations collapse. The virus will be gone soon but Brexit damage will be with us until Scotland cuts itself loose, rejoins the EU and once again enjoys the benefits, rights and equal status of 27 other independent countries."
John Davis 17th October 2021 at 12:01 pm
"They told us that we would keep our own Freedom of Movement rights (Johnson). They claimed that we could cut red tape if we left (Vote Leave). They promised no border down the Irish sea (Johnson, Gove), that we would remain in the Single Market (Hannan, Johnson, Leadsom) and have an even better deal (Vote Leave), that there was no threat to the student Erasmus scheme (Johnson), that shopping bills would be cut (Paterson, Rees-Mogg) and there would be no shortages (Gove, Farage, Raab). They promised 350 million pounds a week to the NHS (Vote Leave), with no downside to Brexit (Davis), and that there would be no big bill but a windfall (Braverman). They said we should ignore the pessimists and the merchants of doom (Johnson) and that the country would prosper mightily (Johnson) and that we would be thriving in 2021 (Hannan).
They lied. They knew they would lose if they told the truth, so they lied to win the vote. For Cummings it was a game. For Johnson it was for self-promotion. For others it was for political or career reasons or from an irrational hatred of the EU driven by an outdated ideology. They relied on the public lack of understanding of the benefits of membership and the actual democratic processes of the EU, and in doing so they have given away our rights as Europeans, damaged our economy and diminished our international voice. The evidence of the damage being caused is all around – we are now living it.
So how are you doing, five years on, what with all that prospering and thriving? Who can still think it was worth leaving the EU for all the unachieved advantages, the undisclosed opportunities. Do they understand yet that they were misled for the sake of a Tory factional ideology, and that people were manipulated by a group of self-serving Westminster Tory egotists, ideologues, fantasists and career opportunists, backed by a right-wing press pushing their own agenda for profit, with the consequence of ruin to the country and the future of so many families?
Now they want to blame everything on the virus. Not because it’s legitimate, but because it provides useful cover amid the public confusion they themselves have created. Good for a while, good for papering over the cracks while the foundations collapse. The virus will be gone soon but Brexit damage will be with us until Scotland cuts itself loose, rejoins the EU and once again enjoys the benefits, rights and equal status of 27 other independent countries."
Colin L
High-tech low-life
All of the above is all very well, but Guy Verhofstadt drives an Aston Martin, which makes the EU the anti-christ.
Strangely, I would have thought a Brexiteer would have been delighted to see great British vehicles (owned by a consortium of overseas investment houses btw) being sold to the EU, but EV has his own twisted logic as he demonstrates at length, post by post
Strangely, I would have thought a Brexiteer would have been delighted to see great British vehicles (owned by a consortium of overseas investment houses btw) being sold to the EU, but EV has his own twisted logic as he demonstrates at length, post by post
TheDecameron
Unicorns fart glitter.
Will seized stock be resold in new Brexit Island Glávnyj Universáľnyj Magazíns at the new Freeports? With profits going to various minister’s families, Tory Gauleiters, pub landlords and party cronies?
PhilofCas
pfm Member
Yes, I agree.
SteveS1
I heard that, pardon?
Excellent, if sobering.
ff1d1l
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