Brexit: give me a positive effect... XIV

[wacko]

^ this could be a positive at last. Frozen potato is surely not a good thing.

 

[puddlesplasher]

It might be a case of a refrigeration fault. If the freezer was faulty and they left the food in you would complain.

 

[eternumviti]

No, the truth as to why it was pig-shit stupid to leave. We're all worse off, there is a huge death toll, there are food shortages and the government is blatantly stealing from us.
Bollocks and irrelevant...exactly how? It's demonstrably true, and I don't know about you, but its pretty relevant to to me, and I imagine, head in sand aside, it is for you.
The EU...they may have had some flaws. But the Johnson's government is one big flawed agregate of flaws. What have they done since election which is honest and competent? And don't say the vaccine, you know very well any success there is in spite of them, not because of.
Jesus, you DARE to compare the EU to these racist fascist crooks?

I didn't, it's you lot that keep doing that.

 

[TheDecameron]

Not a single frozen potato product in Sainsbury's this morning! Not one. Chips, waffles, wedges, roast, hash browns, etc, etc. You name it. Gone.

The potato section was 100% empty. Not even 99% empty. 100%.

First they came for our GP appointments then they took our Curly Fries.

 

[Hook]

The reason there is a potato products shortage is a lack of qualified quality control specialists. Fortunately, the PM has seized the moment and is addressing the problem.

 

[TheDecameron]

The reason there is a potato products shortage is a lack of qualified quality control specialists. Fortunately, the PM has seized the moment and is addressing the problem.

The Prime Minister playing billiards with potatoes

 

[Nero]

Went to Waitrose today for some frozen peas. The cabinets were empty. Nice little note from Waitrose apologising, but I was looking forward to rice and peas tonight.
Apocryphal

 

[TheDecameron]

Let them eat Ginsters.

 

[tuga]

It has become an entirely predictable trope that, when forced to acknowledge that the EU has 'shortcomings', the typical EUphile will utter the same weaselish flannel about how they 'know that the EU isn't perfect' before launching into a qualification, beginning with the word 'but', that comprises a list of the reasons why they think that the EU is in fact pretty much perfect, most of them typically exhibiting a complete absence of comprehension of, or more insidiously a refusal to acknowledge, what the EU is about, and how it functions. These lists routinely offer the expressions 'democracy', 'human-rights', 'workers' rights', 'freedom' and 'civil-liberty', amongst other airy blandishments. In other words, and going right back to my post above, a profound and immovable belief that the EU stands uniquely for the utopian principles of peace, democracy, progressivism, tolerance etc...

The EU is not democratic, indeed, in the makeup of its institutions and governance it is actively anti-democratic. When, in advancing its political ambitions it has faced referenda in member States, it has routinely and without exception steamrollered on, ignoring unwelcome results, or rephrasing the question until it gets the result it wants. The EU espouses peace, indeed was founded in the ashes of world war, but is hapless and divided on foreign policy, and increasingly divisive in internal policy. Its powerful agricultural and fisheries lobbies have ensured policies that have wrought massive environmental destruction on land, and have laid waste to not only Europe's own seas, but far beyond, to those of West-Africa and the Indian Ocean, in the process collapsing the livelihoods of the coastal communites that depend on the affected fisheries. It places capital ahead of labour, permitting companies to move to regions of cheaper labour whilst prohibiting the existing labour forces from striking in response, or compelling workers in the poorer regions to migrate to the wealthier regions, depopulating and deskilling vast tracts of the eastern countries for the benefit of western capital. Working long, exhausting hours in disgusting conditions in a German meat factory for money barely sufficient to pay for the shoddiest of living conditions many miles from home is not 'freedom', it is virtual slavery, and the EU does nothing to prevent or ameliorate it, indeed actively encourages it. The EU does very little to protect your human rights, less still those meat factory workers, or your civil liberties. In fact your workers' and civil rights were hard won by the liberal, labour and trades union movements in this wretched little country which you seem to hate so much, and your liberty was won by a coalition government led by an old Etonian tory, whose force of personality was fundamental to the defeat of fascism and the subsequent halt of the march of communism, and created the peace in Europe in which the EU's foundations could be dug.

You were a 'subject' of the monarchy even within the EU, and that and the 'rigged' electoral system are matters to be dealt with within our own democracy, by encouraging and supporting worthwhile and effective opposition, and by protest. By outsourcing these things to the EU you are merely handing it to more distant and infinitely more unnaccountable power, power that does not, despite your fond musings, have your interests at heart.

Are we any better for being out?

 

[TheDecameron]

It has become an entirely predictable trope that, when forced to acknowledge that the EU has 'shortcomings', the typical EUphile will utter the same weaselish flannel about how they 'know that the EU isn't perfect' before launching into a qualification, beginning with the word 'but', that comprises a list of the reasons why they think that the EU is in fact pretty much perfect, most of them typically exhibiting a complete absence of comprehension of, or more insidiously a refusal to acknowledge, what the EU is about, and how it functions. These lists routinely offer the expressions 'democracy', 'human-rights', 'workers' rights', 'freedom' and 'civil-liberty', amongst other airy blandishments. In other words, and going right back to my post above, a profound and immovable belief that the EU stands uniquely for the utopian principles of peace, democracy, progressivism, tolerance etc...

The EU is not democratic, indeed, in the makeup of its institutions and governance it is actively anti-democratic. When, in advancing its political ambitions it has faced referenda in member States, it has routinely and without exception steamrollered on, ignoring unwelcome results, or rephrasing the question until it gets the result it wants. The EU espouses peace, indeed was founded in the ashes of world war, but is hapless and divided on foreign policy, and increasingly divisive in internal policy. Its powerful agricultural and fisheries lobbies have ensured policies that have wrought massive environmental destruction on land, and have laid waste to not only Europe's own seas, but far beyond, to those of West-Africa and the Indian Ocean, in the process collapsing the livelihoods of the coastal communites that depend on the affected fisheries. It places capital ahead of labour, permitting companies to move to regions of cheaper labour whilst prohibiting the existing labour forces from striking in response, or compelling workers in the poorer regions to migrate to the wealthier regions, depopulating and deskilling vast tracts of the eastern countries for the benefit of western capital. Working long, exhausting hours in disgusting conditions in a German meat factory for money barely sufficient to pay for the shoddiest of living conditions many miles from home is not 'freedom', it is virtual slavery, and the EU does nothing to prevent or ameliorate it, indeed actively encourages it. The EU does very little to protect your human rights, less still those meat factory workers, or your civil liberties. In fact your workers' and civil rights were hard won by the liberal, labour and trades union movements in this wretched little country which you seem to hate so much, and your liberty was won by a coalition government led by an old Etonian tory, whose force of personality was fundamental to the defeat of fascism and the subsequent halt of the march of communism, and created the peace in Europe in which the EU's foundations could be dug.

You were a 'subject' of the monarchy even within the EU, and that and the 'rigged' electoral system are matters to be dealt with within our own democracy, by encouraging and supporting worthwhile and effective opposition, and by protest. By outsourcing these things to the EU you are merely handing it to more distant and infinitely more unnaccountable power, power that does not, despite your fond musings, have your interests at heart.

EV, there’s a shamelessness to your posts these days. I feel asking you any more how low you’ll go with Johnson’s Tories is redundant. You’re ready to go all the way.

 

[eternumviti]

EV, there’s a shamelessness to your posts these days. I feel asking you any more how low you’ll go with Johnson’s Tories is redundant. You’re ready to go all the way.

The post had nothing to do with Johnson's tories, and well you know it.

I have long since given up wondering how low you'll go to misrepresent the posts of someone who disagrees with your very particular worldview.

 

[NeilR]

Went to Waitrose today for some frozen peas. The cabinets were empty. Nice little note from Waitrose apologising, but I was looking forward to rice and peas tonight.
Apocryphal

 

[Nick_G]

Ah, Nick G's version of covering his ears and singing 'LA-LA-LA!'.

Nice one, Nick, well done.

No, just a case of a crazy-looking rant, the contents of which were unnecessarily long. I have two questions for you:

1) Do you think we'd have been better off staying in?

2) If you are so concerned about human rights, as that long post seemed to suggest, why did you vote Tory?

 

[PsB]

It has become an entirely predictable trope that, when forced to acknowledge that the EU has 'shortcomings', the typical EUphile will utter the same weaselish flannel about how they 'know that the EU isn't perfect' before launching into a qualification, beginning with the word 'but', that comprises a list of the reasons why they think that the EU is in fact pretty much perfect, most of them typically exhibiting a complete absence of comprehension of, or more insidiously a refusal to acknowledge, what the EU is about, and how it functions. These lists routinely offer the expressions 'democracy', 'human-rights', 'workers' rights', 'freedom' and 'civil-liberty', amongst other airy blandishments. In other words, and going right back to my post above, a profound and immovable belief that the EU stands uniquely for the utopian principles of peace, democracy, progressivism, tolerance etc...

The EU is not democratic, indeed, in the makeup of its institutions and governance it is actively anti-democratic. When, in advancing its political ambitions it has faced referenda in member States, it has routinely and without exception steamrollered on, ignoring unwelcome results, or rephrasing the question until it gets the result it wants. The EU espouses peace, indeed was founded in the ashes of world war, but is hapless and divided on foreign policy, and increasingly divisive in internal policy. Its powerful agricultural and fisheries lobbies have ensured policies that have wrought massive environmental destruction on land, and have laid waste to not only Europe's own seas, but far beyond, to those of West-Africa and the Indian Ocean, in the process collapsing the livelihoods of the coastal communites that depend on the affected fisheries. It places capital ahead of labour, permitting companies to move to regions of cheaper labour whilst prohibiting the existing labour forces from striking in response, or compelling workers in the poorer regions to migrate to the wealthier regions, depopulating and deskilling vast tracts of the eastern countries for the benefit of western capital. Working long, exhausting hours in disgusting conditions in a German meat factory for money barely sufficient to pay for the shoddiest of living conditions many miles from home is not 'freedom', it is virtual slavery, and the EU does nothing to prevent or ameliorate it, indeed actively encourages it. The EU does very little to protect your human rights, less still those meat factory workers, or your civil liberties. In fact your workers' and civil rights were hard won by the liberal, labour and trades union movements in this wretched little country which you seem to hate so much, and your liberty was won by a coalition government led by an old Etonian tory, whose force of personality was fundamental to the defeat of fascism and the subsequent halt of the march of communism, and created the peace in Europe in which the EU's foundations could be dug.

You were a 'subject' of the monarchy even within the EU, and that and the 'rigged' electoral system are matters to be dealt with within our own democracy, by encouraging and supporting worthwhile and effective opposition, and by protest. By outsourcing these things to the EU you are merely handing it to more distant and infinitely more unnaccountable power, power that does not, despite your fond musings, have your interests at heart.

Speaking about predictable tropes... you can be relied upon to bring things back to the awful, undemocratic, unaccountable EU. I won't bore you and everyone else by listing the exaggerations, distortions and false statements in your second paragraph. Just one thing: what is this weird statement that the EU prohibits strikes? I'm sure you've worked out a circular way to come to that result, but can't imagine what it is.

 

[SteveS1]

Are we any better for being out?

He never gets to that. With good reason.

 

[Barrymagrec]

The reason there is a potato products shortage is a lack of qualified quality control specialists. Fortunately, the PM has seized the moment and is addressing the problem.

I see in that picture the main cause of the potato product shortage.

 

[Joe Hutch]

Speaking about predictable tropes... you can be relied upon to bring things back to the awful, undemocratic, unaccountable EU. I won't bore you and everyone else by listing the exaggerations, distortions and false statements in your second paragraph. Just one thing: what is this weird statement that the EU prohibits strikes? I'm sure you've worked out a circular way to come to that result, but can't imagine what it is.

I'm also amused at the idea of Churchill being an Old Etonian.

 

[TheDecameron]

I'm also amused at the idea of Churchill being an Old Etonian.

Not to mention he’d be spinning in his grave at a member of the Royals having a father in law in the SS and doing funny business with the novichok spraying Russians,

 

[TheDecameron]

The post had nothing to do with Johnson's tories, and well you know it.

I have long since given up wondering how low you'll go to misrepresent the posts of someone who disagrees with your very particular worldview.

I reread your post - the lengthy speech that made a number of nostrils twitch- it’s vintage Goldsmith-era UKIP, from the days before they let the real knuckle draggers in. I see you’ve temporarily retired the Poor African Farmer and have began using the Poor Continental Factory Worker with the same cod sympathy. The “up the workers!” / levelling up Panto that Johnson indulges in but no one really buys.

Your post was really all about British exceptionalism and the dislike and distrust of foreigners, especially their supranational institutions. A position that asserts we are sovereign equal to this United States of Europe and superior to all of them individually.

 

[tones]

Not to mention he’d be spinning in his grave at a member of the Royals having a father in law in the SS and doing funny business with the novichok spraying Russians,

Just curious, who's the guy? And is he a successor to the Tsar (I thought that was Putin!)? That's a sort-of copy of the crown of Vladimir Monomakh, traditionally worn by the Tsars (the original is kept in the Kremlin).