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Brexit: give me a positive effect... VI

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eternumviti said:
I know, think how lucky we were. We could have ended up with Corbyn! :confused:
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We could have, but we ended up with a lying incompetent buffoon of a puppet and an alt-right un-elected bureaucrat pulling the strings and driving us towards the beaut of wild capitalism and little (wellfare) state... So much for the electorate taking back control.

And all 'cause of the "we won so we must have it regardless fearmongering turning reality" mindlessness.
 
Johnson interviewed in a hi vis jacket and hard hat waving his arms around stuttering platitudes. “We are always willing to do a great deal with our friends in Europe, we could get the Australia deal or we might not get a deal”. Tell them what the Australia deal is.
 
tuga said:
We could have, but we ended up with a lying incompetent buffoon of a puppet and an alt-right un-elected bureaucrat pulling the strings and driving us towards the beaut of wild capitalism and little (wellfare) state... So much for the electorate taking back control.

And all 'cause of the "we won so we must have it regardless fearmongering turning reality" mindlessness.
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Mmmm. The 'unelecteds' seem to be a constant theme, whichever side you're on. We've just got a different lot now, as well as a good few of the same lot. As to welfare state, I guess you're discounting the unprecededly vast sums that the greedy, grabbing alt/right govt has been doling out to businesses and individuals (furlough) in the last 6 months?

Tuga, our system of democracy might be imperfect, but you can be absolutely certain that a competent opposition will in due course reform, and that the electorate will indeed boot the current lot out of office at the next election unless they start to bring in results for the people who lent them their vote last time round.
 
It's a no deal is what the Audtralia deal is. Only reason Abbott has been given a barrow load of dosh is he is an Aussie. Australia must be high on approval lists in polls.

They generally do not like foreigners and perceived to be mostly white and Mad Max was one.
 
You righties are such scaredy saps flinching at the slightest photoshopped BBC propaganda.

Keir’s gonna be harder to pull that stunt on and he’s virtually Tory-lite scum in the Blair mould. Utterly hopeless. You’ve swung so far to the right even moderates are seen as raving socialists. Softies, all of you.
 
eternumviti said:
Mmmm. The 'unelecteds' seem to be a constant theme, whichever side you're on. We've just got a different lot now, as well as a good few of the same lot. As to welfare state, I guess you're discounting the unprecedentally vast sums that the greedy, grabbing alt/right govt has been doling out to businesses and individuals (furlough) in the last 6 months?

Tuga, our system of democracy might be imperfect, but you can be absolutely certain that a competent opposition will in due course reform, and that the electorate will indeed boot the current lot out of office at the next election unless they start to bring in results for the people who lent them their vote last time round.
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How did I know you'd use Covid as an excuse...

I don't see how "a competent opposition will in due course reform" the damages of a "gerrit dun" Government and of BrExit.
 
eternumviti said:
As to welfare state, I guess you're discounting the unprecedentally vast sums that the greedy, grabbing alt/right govt has been doling out to businesses and individuals (furlough) in the last 6 months?
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DumBo Jo didn't have an alternative did he?

He did try to delay lockdown and look where it's got us. My wife is an NHS consultant by the way, getting ready for the Second Wave.
 
eternumviti said:
our system of democracy might be imperfect...
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So imperfect it’s not a functioning democracy & we all know that’s the whole point of wheeling out & positioning people like BoJo at this juncture; you know it, I know it, so why not dispense with this “imperfect democracy” bullshit & just come clean & admit that you & your kind don’t give a **** about it, you just want a 1,000 year Tory reich — whatever it takes.
 
tuga said:
How did I know you'd use Covid as an excuse...

I don't see how "a competent opposition will in due course reform" the damages of a "gerrit dun" Government and of BrExit.
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Excuse for what? You sound as though you've embraced the trope of 'they'll blame it all on covid'.

tuga said:
DumBo Jo didn't have an alternative did he?

He did try to delay lockdown and look where it's got us. My wife is an NHS consultant by the way, getting ready for the Second Wave.
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Didn't he? He may have mishandled almost everything else, but I would think the govt got that about right. Going forward, well, that might be a different thing.

I don't think you've heard me defending the timing of lockdown. I've kept well out of that.
 
claire.foxx said:
So imperfect it’s not a functioning democracy & we all know that’s the whole point of wheeling out & positioning people like BoJo at this juncture; you know it, I know it, so why not dispense with this “imperfect democracy” bullshit & just come clean & admit that you & your kind don’t give a **** about it, you just want a 1,000 year Tory reich — whatever it takes.
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Sure. Long, deep breaths.
 
eternumviti said:
Tuga, our system of democracy might be imperfect, but you can be absolutely certain that a competent opposition will in due course reform, and that the electorate will indeed boot the current lot out of office at the next election unless they start to bring in results for the people who lent them their vote last time round.
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Far from being absolutely certain, I consider this scenario somewhat unlikely, on current trends.
 
Well you could hardly say that the tories under BJ are riding a wave of popularity at the moment, Sue. It just need Starmer to get a grip.
 
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