TheDecameron
Unicorns fart glitter.
Ha! She who must be obeyed? That’ll get The Express and Private Francois viagra-free.Agreed!
Brexit: give me a positive effect... V
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PsB
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TheDecameron
Unicorns fart glitter.
Colin Barron
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Bino Teresa and the Wesminster Remainers are ancient history.
Colin Barron
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As Ursula says 'Life on our planet is fragile, that’s why we need to invest in a Green Recovery', what she does not say is 'unless it gets in the way of business'.Agreed!
SteveS1
I heard that, pardon?
BINO is coming. It's the only deal in town and I see the backers of Brexit don't expect the restrictions to apply to them, or feel the need to pay UK tax. That's for little people.
eternumviti
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Apparently Gove also asked them if they fancied rekindling the auld alliance and would perhaps take Scotland off our hands too. The reply went along the lines of 'Mais non, Monsieur Gooove, nous sommes désolés, mais 'l'Ecosse, c'est vraiment BEAUCOUP trop cher!'
Apparently the thrusting young French professional classes have already annexed some of the juciest parts of West London. In the meantime the laissez-faire former occupants of middle-English villages in Kent and Surrey have reoccupied most of the bof! vineyards of rural Guyenne, from whence they (we) were last ejected following the Battle of Castillon in 1415.
tuga
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First we take (back) Brittany, then we take Berlin. Or something.
MikeMA
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....who is no longer Taoiseach.
So, why do I mention them when you mention Varadkar..? (scroll up for hint)
PsB
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if you truly believe Treeza stood for BiNO, you must have missed a few of her daft red lines. Never mind, they're all coming to a place near you shortly anyway.
Colin Barron
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Quite right and Big Phil Hogan is gone as will Macron in 2022. The Mercosur 'cars for cows deal' could survive them all, maybe. The French farmers may have the last word, unless of course Macron wants another load of tractors in Paris with the yellow jackets.
PsB
Citizen of Nowhere™
That's an interesting set of fantasies you have there. Most Brexiters want nothing to do with French peasants, tractors, fishermen etc. But good to see you're rootin' for them.
Big Phil Hogan had to go, of course, because he broke the rules. No ifs, no buts. That other "unelected official", Little Dom Cummings, is still there. Contrast and compare.
billo
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Has anyone done the "there was always a Deal in Kent" joke yet?
tuga
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Since you've mentioned "unelected officials"...
Is the EU really run by unelected bureaucrats?
A popular claim by many supporters of the Leave campaign is that the EU is run by ‘unelected bureaucrats’. How much truth is there behind that claim?
This claim mainly refers to the EU Commission: the EU’s executive body. It is true that the Commission President and the individual Commissioners are not directly elected by the peoples of Europe. So, in that sense, we cannot “throw the scoundrels out”. It is also true that under the provisions of the EU treaty, the Commission has the sole right to propose EU legislation, which, if passed, is then binding on all the EU member states and the citizens of these member states.
But, that’s not the end of the story. First, the Commission’s power to propose legislation is much weaker than it at first seems. The Commission can only propose laws in those areas where the EU governments have unanimously agreed to allow it to do under the EU treaty. Put another way, the Commission can only propose EU laws in areas where the UK government and the House of Commons has allowed it to do so.
Also, ‘proposing’ is not the same as ‘deciding’. A Commission proposal only becomes law if it is approved by both a qualified-majority in the EU Council (unanimity in many sensitive areas) and a simple majority in the European Parliament. In practice this means that after the amendments adopted by the governments and the MEPs, the legislation usually looks very different to what the Commission originally proposed. In this sense, the Commission is much weaker than it was in the 1980s, when it was harder to amend its proposals in the Council and when the European Parliament did not have amendment and veto power.
Part of the misunderstanding about the power of the Commission perhaps stems from a comparison with the British system of government. Unlike the British government, which commands a majority in the House of Commons, the Commission does not command an in-built majority in the EU Council or the European Parliament, and so has to build a coalition issue-by-issue. This puts the Commission in a much weaker position in the EU system than the British government in the UK system.
continues here -> https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/europpblog/2016/06/21/is-the-eu-really-run-by-unelected-bureaucrats/
stephen bennett
Mr Enigma
Indeed.
This is the moment the Tories split the country asunder and ignored the wishes and rights of 48% (or 63%) of the UK, while insulting them, effectively calling them traitors in the process.
She then went on to try and push through her deal without Parliamentary democracy being involved.
This led us to where we are today: borders across Kent and UK/NI and the likelihood of Scottish secession. Even with a Tory deal.
Imagine if this speech had been about the country rather than the Tory party and their donors?
"Today, we negotiate with our EU colleagues to deliver the promises laid out in the Leave campaigns while respecting the views of those who voted in this non-binding, close vote, referendum. (i.e. 'Norway',) says Imaginary Theresa May.
It would have been over by Christmas. Only the ERG would have opposed it. A 'remainer' parliament (according to some here) would have got it through.
Stephen
Nick_G
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Damn right. That speech is even more hypocritical since the pandemic and Cummingsgate:
"Today too many people in positions of power behave as though they have more in common with international elites than with the people down the road, the people they employ, the people they pass on the street. But if you believe you're a citizen of the world, you're a citizen of nowhere. You don't understand what the very word 'citizenship' means. So if you're a boss who earns a fortune that doesn't look after your staff, an international company that treats tax laws as an optional extra, a household name that refuses to work with the authorities to fight terrorism, a director who takes out massive dividends while knowing that the company pension is about to go bust. I'm putting you on warning. This can't go on any more. A change has got to come and this party is going to make it!"
Instead it's one rule for them (we're above the law and are prepared to break it to get Brexit done) and another for the plebs.
stephen bennett
Mr Enigma
The irony is ironic.
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