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Bread maker suggestions

If you’re going to have one, it clearly needs to have a place of its own on a kitchen work surface. It’s likely that it’ll then be used.

If you’re thinking it’ll need to go in a cupboard, and come out to be used, I’d suggest it’s not a good idea.

I would agree.
A dedicated space but one that does not interfere with more general activity so it can just do its thing in peace. Also, if possible, keep the basic ingredients/scales close by so it can be as quick and easy as possible. I often put on a dough as I walk through the kitchen on my way somewhere else.
Once you know your recipe with everything at hand it can be done in under a minute and is not a chore, just because you have to. We always have normal bread at hand as well as whatever speciality is favourite at the time.
If you are making a speciality bread you will be doing it anyway as part of the process of cooking the meal, which, for me at any rate, is generally an enjoyable experience and the bread is part of the planning.
 
Thread resurrection apologies...

Just in case it helps anyone else who’s tempted by a bread machine a quick update on our experience with the Panasonic...

Having made five loaves (whole meal, white and 50:50, some with added seeds etc.) we’ve returned ours to Amazon.

Why?

You can buy much nicer sliced bread in the supermarket, and much, much, nicer bread in your local family run bakery.
 
Was the machine faulty? I’ve never baked bread in my life, but I’m not clear how you can return an electric bread maker because you didn’t like the bread you made in it. I’m not being rude, just genuinely a bit puzzled.
 
Was the machine faulty? I’ve never baked bread in my life, but I’m not clear how you can return an electric bread maker because you didn’t like the bread you made in it. I’m not being rude, just genuinely a bit puzzled.

Not faulty, but returned under the “Performance or quality not adequate” heading.
 
Was the machine faulty? I’ve never baked bread in my life, but I’m not clear how you can return an electric bread maker because you didn’t like the bread you made in it. I’m not being rude, just genuinely a bit puzzled.

Distance selling regs. Same as buying a pair of shoes that don’t look on you quite how you thought they would from the picture on the website.

Also Amazons’ returns policy is amazingly generous.
 
Distance selling regs. Same as buying a pair of shoes that don’t look on you quite how you thought they would from the picture on the website.

Also Amazons’ returns policy is amazingly generous.

Yup. We washed it carefully per instructions, and returned it in good-as-new condition. I assume they then re-sell under the Amazon warehouse “used - like new” category?
 
I had to tweak the recipes in the Panasonic booklet a bit to achieve really nice bread. Replace oil with butter, adjust the amount of salt & water, stuff like that. The basic recipes in the book produce something that is acceptable, but not outstanding.

I don’t use it that much these days because basically a loaf disappears within a nanosecond of it coming out of the machine, so I have to make more...
 
Hmm, perhaps we should have persisted. However, our local bakery does make exceptional bread!

Then you should use your bakery, we aren’t so lucky, ours makes exceptional pies, (being Wigan it would be unforgivable it they didn’t), but the bread isn’t of the same standard.

We actually like Aldi’s own bread at the moment for sliced stuff.
 
Hmm, perhaps we should have persisted

the recipes in the Panasonic book are awful, and produces tasteless bread. There are a number of recipe books for bread makers that produce excellent results. We were producing really tasty bread from ours, but we got bored with the weighing, etc.....in the end we stopped using it and off to the charity shop it went.

We have a local baker round here, that has a small branch at the bottom of our road. Their sourdough and wholemeal, brown loaves are excellent, white is passable.
 
the recipes in the Panasonic book are awful, and produces tasteless bread. There are a number of recipe books for bread makers that produce excellent results. We were producing really tasty bread from ours, but we got bored with the weighing, etc.....in the end we stopped using it and off to the charity shop it went.

We have a local baker round here, that has a small branch at the bottom of our road. Their sourdough and wholemeal, brown loaves are excellent, white is passable.
Once you’ve tried a few recipes it’s very easy to invent your own or add ingredients to suit your own personal taste. Different makes of flour taste difference too, supermarket whole meal tastes different whole meal from a specialist mill for example.

Weighing the flour out is easy too with the Panasonic container on scales, chuck everything in, 2 mins max, press button and that’s it, the machine does the rest. Brilliant. Best bit of kit I’ve bought since the Raspberry Pi.
 
supermarket whole meal tastes different whole meal from a specialist mill for example

I agree - our local baker uses specialist flour from here https://www.millgreenmuseum.co.uk/Whats-on-offer/mill and the bread is way better than we could make

Weighing the flour out is easy too with the Panasonic container on scales, chuck everything in, 2 mins max, press button and that’s it

We find it too onerous and got bored. Our Panasonic bread maker is long gone......

Best bit of kit I’ve bought since the Raspberry Pi.
Yes something I have never found a use for either - mind you I am buying several hundred a year for our students to use.
 
I don’t find using a bread maker a chore because I am still mildly excited at being able to make bread at home - I know it’s cheating to a certain extent and I should be kneading by hand, but that’s slightly seductive too.
We only use the bread for toast in the main and it makes the best toast I have ever tasted especially with mixed seeds in the dough. I should get out more, agreed.
 
I don’t find using a bread maker a chore because I am still mildly excited at being able to make bread at home
And the smell of freshly baking bread in the last 20mins or so, ooh, that alone is worth the effort.
 
Thread resurrection apologies...

Just in case it helps anyone else who’s tempted by a bread machine a quick update on our experience with the Panasonic...

Having made five loaves (whole meal, white and 50:50, some with added seeds etc.) we’ve returned ours to Amazon.

Why?

You can buy much nicer sliced bread in the supermarket, and much, much, nicer bread in your local family run bakery.
Hmmmmm...your supermarket must be Fortnum and Masons! And yes we have a family run bakery near us, Lathoms, and their bread is delicious but still not a par compared to home made.
 
Thread resurrection apologies...

Just in case it helps anyone else who’s tempted by a bread machine a quick update on our experience with the Panasonic...

Having made five loaves (whole meal, white and 50:50, some with added seeds etc.) we’ve returned ours to Amazon.

Why?

You can buy much nicer sliced bread in the supermarket, and much, much, nicer bread in your local family run bakery.
Oddly enough I've been thinking of knocking shop bread on the head as the home made via Panasonic is so much nicer
Tesco's multi grain or similar
Will try some other bread mixes when I get around ot it
 
3 minutes to fling bunch of ingredients in a breadmaker vs 45 minute round trip to the local bakery here. No contest.

A hand kneaded cob baked in the Aga tastes much, much better, but is too much faff. Note to self: I may try using the breadmaker for dough and then bake it in the oven. Still more faff, though.
 


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