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Banning escooters on trains

Discussion in 'off topic' started by mercalia, May 25, 2023.

  1. mercalia

    mercalia pfm Member

    next ebikes?
    I think so
  2. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    I honestly don't know. I see more illegal electric bikes in UK than in say Napoli. In Napoli the legal sort are everywhere, UK less so. Maybe the police are arresting them, maybe not.
  3. matt j

    matt j pfm Member

    I've never seen an electric motorcycle, I've seen loads of tuned/illegal ebikes though, doing about 40 down a residential street usually ridden by someone wearing a bally thinking he's proper ard innit.
  4. gintonic

    gintonic 50 shades of grey pussy cats

    just seen several on High Holborn
  5. Bob McC

    Bob McC Living the life of Riley

    They are then electric motorcycles.
    As soon as an E-bike is modified to no longer need to be pedalled it become an E motorcycle with completely different laws applied to it.
  6. matt j

    matt j pfm Member

    I thought people were talking about things without pedals/no means of physical propulsion? as in a motorbike with an electric motor rather than an engine. what you call a tuned Ebike is up to you but it's still an Ebike.
  7. Bob McC

    Bob McC Living the life of Riley

    No it isn’t.
    See the definition here.
  8. Bob McC

    Bob McC Living the life of Riley

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  9. dan m

    dan m pfm Member

    Yes, they could be a great solution to the ‘last mile’ transit problem. A folding one would use less space than a Brompton. But you need a better network of dedicated and protected bike lanes. The danger is the mixing of pedestrians and bikes/scooters and cars.
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  10. Jimin

    Jimin pfm Member

    Is it just me that finds this deeply disturbing?
  11. Bob McC

    Bob McC Living the life of Riley

  12. Ponty

    Ponty pfm Member

    In Bristol on Saturday, the bloody things are everywhere and an absolute menace. Running red lights, up and down pavements, saw several near misses. One came within inches of me, going straight through a pedestrian crossing. Should have tried to push him over really but they just come out of nowhere at a hell of a speed.
  13. paulfromcamden

    paulfromcamden Baffled

    You see them now and then in London where I guess the limited battery range is less of a problem.

    Cool things. Almost silent and seem to go from 0 to 30 in a couple of seconds on the Old Kent Road traffic light Grand Prix.
  14. AnilS

    AnilS pfm Member

    Maybe because I couldn't deselect his verbal abuse?
  15. MikeMA

    MikeMA pfm Member

    In our local park on Sunday I saw two young lads about 14 or 15 on e-bikes, or possibly small e-motorbikes. Whatever, they looked similar to the thing the two boys in Wales were killed on. They came down a crowded footpath by the boating lake at about 20 mph doing wheelies and shouting at people to get out of the way. Unfortunately the police weren't following them but had they been around they should have been. I was hoping they'd fall into the lake but no such luck.
    Last edited: May 30, 2023 at 6:50 PM
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  16. AnilS

    AnilS pfm Member

    From my local free paper last week.

  17. martin clark

    martin clark pinko bodger

    That be Brizzle; where commuting is a contact sport : D
    Richard Lines likes this.
  18. martin clark

    martin clark pinko bodger

    Why? I have a glass floor in the car, to see who I've just run-over.
    Sharpened bumpers, FTW!
  19. vince rocker

    vince rocker pfm Member

    Ah, a classic pfm miserable buggers thread. E-scooters are an affordable, easy to use, low impact method of personal transport, how can that be a bad thing?
    I agree that some e-scooter riders are anti-social menaces but so are some drivers, cyclists, motor-cyclists, pedestrians, horse riders... As the newspaper cutting above shows the main victims are the scooter riders themselves. I'd like to see more education for all road and pavement users in safe sharing of space, not a ban of something which is basically good.
  20. Jezzer

    Jezzer Unspecified

    I’ve just returned from a few days in Tel Aviv and had the pleasure of using a Lime e-scooter for the first time. Along their incredibly long stretch of stunning beach they have dedicated lanes for scooters and bikes so, in this case, it’s perfectly fine. Really enjoyed using it as walking back to my hotel (also on the beach) would have taken ages (I also had a passenger holding on for dear life).

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