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Discussion in 'off topic' started by hifinutt, Dec 3, 2021.

  1. hifinutt

    hifinutt hifinutt

    No doubt many have been following the tragic news of Arthur the little 6 year old who died

    Often visit this area and road so brings it home, it's one of the richest boroughs in England.

    I am sure many of you know children's social workers and what a hard job they do and covid did not help the situation as it could be hidden.

    How can we help our children's services and community services try and stop things getting to this ?
  2. Ellenor

    Ellenor pfm Member

    I’ve got no answers I’m afraid but I was totally shocked at the story on the news last night. I hope they have a tough time behind bars.
  3. Stuart Frazer

    Stuart Frazer pfm Member

    I read about the case and found it harrowing that such people could treat a little boy like that, or in the case of the Father, knowingly let it happen. The wicked step-mother is a sadistic child abuser and murderer. I also read that the wicked step-mother was pregnant with Arthurs Father's child, but had an abortion whilst on remand in prison. Arthur's Mother is apparently in Prison serving a sentence for Manslaughter and his Father hooked up and moved in with the new girlfriend and allowed him to be abused, tortured and ultimately murdered. It's sickening. Social services seemingly missed opportunities to intervene and obviously the Covid lockdown and not attending school reduced the opportunities for the problems to be seen and identified. His Father should have been protecting him. Poor little boy didn't deserve this.
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  4. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    Incomprehensible on so many levels, but sadly far from unprecedented. This shit unquestionably happens, and it appears once again that warning signs were missed. Domestic violence is a huge, huge issue, on average two women a week are murdered in the UK alone (Wikipedia).
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  5. Cav

    Cav pfm Member

    While Solihull is, for the most part, an affluent Borough it also contains Chelmsley Wood which is one of the most deprived areas in England. I doubt Arthur lived in the leafy suburbs...
  6. Tony L

    Tony L Administrator

    The house certainly didn’t look too ‘affluent area’ on TV.
  7. blossomchris

    blossomchris I feel better than James Brown

    gut wrenchingly sad
  8. Durmbo

    Durmbo not French

  9. Ponty

    Ponty pfm Member

    I heard the heartbreaking recordings of poor little Arthur on LBC.
    Sorry, I know many won’t agree, but they don’t deserve air to breathe, let alone anything else.
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  10. Sloop John B

    Sloop John B for more years than I care to remember

    Incomprehensible is the only word. The poor little boy.

    I really pity social workers + how could you do your job suspecting such evil around every corner?

    Undoubtedly (hopefully) there are learnings from this that will help prevent some other child experiencing such abuse.

    watching newsnight this evening I couldn’t help but focus on the mention of cludgy software where social workers spend an inordinate amount of their inputing data. I imagined a drop down box (designed by a programmer who knew no better) detailing the risks for the “client”.

    I’ve no answers (obviously) but I can’t help thinking that being able to hit “submit” and have completed your work may have something to do with this terrible tragedy reaching such an horrific conclusion for poor young Arthur.

  11. PhilofCas

    PhilofCas pfm Member

    I know we’ll never know, but why? Sick people indeed.
  12. Spraggons Den

    Spraggons Den pfm Member

    A terrible, terrible story - my heart goes out to Arthur.
  13. Rodrat

    Rodrat pfm Member

    The problem as identified is that all social workers spend at least a quarter of their time feeding the beast and even more in youth justice. The Conservatives cut the budget to LA’s years ago, there are 6000 vacancies in England, a large proportion of the social work teams are made up of trainee social workers, the rate experienced social workers leave because the job is crap is astounding, the team managers are more focussed on keeping senior managers happy than having time to manage their team and despite several serious case reviews over the years, there is no joined up data base with other agencies because the Tories scrapped it before it even got going. Are there crap social workers and managers ? Of course there are. Bojo will bluster and blame everyone but the Tories, he will announce some funding but in reality the LA’s will have to fund any changes and cut services elsewhere. Being a safeguarding social worker is one of the shittiest jobs going, they get lambasted at the drop of a hat but you never see any praise for some of the excellent work done. Unfortunately not a sexy role like those in the NHS.
  14. deanf

    deanf pfm Member

    Judge's sentencing remarks,

    I can understand how a parent cannot cope, and even how at the end of their tether they hit a child in anger; but what I cannot comprehend is the complete detachment these two have. Both deliberately caused suffering beyond words to one child in the house while caring for others, and then just after Arthur’s death they thought they could talk their way out of it.

    RIP Arthur.
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  15. Cav

    Cav pfm Member

  16. wacko

    wacko pfm Member

    Wish I hadn't read any of this. Certainly not opening any links. Feel sick right now.
    Rockmeister likes this.
  17. paulfromcamden

    paulfromcamden Baffled

    I think social workers have an incredibly difficult job. One the one hand there are tragic cases like this but on the other constant criticism of social services being too eager to 'split up families'.
  18. Mitch65

    Mitch65 pfm Member

    Just watching the news now, not sure we want to see any more information other than what’s already out there as it’s just too upsetting…….horrible bastards
    Enrae8 and AnilS like this.
  19. AnilS

    AnilS pfm Member

    This ^

    There's a video online of him. I won't watch it.

    So many red flags with the step mother.

    So many relatives raised concerns. No one listened.

    Every picture I've seen of poor Arthur, is of a child that has the most beautiful smile.

    RIP little man.
  20. mik_rik

    mik_rik pfm Member

    That a little lad suffered more than a lifetimes hate and pain in just a few years, has really hit me

    The older I get,the more I despair of this world
    irons1965, Tarzan and AnilS like this.

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