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America's Cup

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Nero, Dec 16, 2020.

  1. Ponty

    Ponty pfm Member

    Just watched. I hope the US come back and we see a proper fight but at this rate it’ll be all over tomorrow.
     
  2. Spike

    Spike pfm Member

    Indeed. However, just getting back on the water has been a major success. If they could make a better start and put some pressure on Prada would make for an interesting race.
    It’s great for us insomniacs.
     
    Last edited: Jan 30, 2021
  3. Nero

    Nero Wiped Clean

    Putting pressure on Jimmy Spithill is a bit of an oxymoron. I'm more worried about the Prada final. Especially as we have run out of foil design iterations. Nervous......

    But on the other hand, could this be it? Has the Brits' time come ?
     
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  4. robs

    robs should know how this works by no

    Didn't look good for the US. LR looking really smooth and in control.

    53 knots - that's just mental. 60mph. No seatbelts or airbags here...
     
  5. peter bj

    peter bj pfm Member

    The American boat was looking skittish and difficult to sail when changing direction but was fast at 50 knots + .The fact they lost the rudder again does not bode well but hopefully they are able to put up more of a challenge tomorrow . Prada seem to have improved unfortunately !
     
  6. jtrade

    jtrade pfm Member

    Arriverderci, American Magic.

    My opinion is that the key design flaw was the one that allowed a capsize to rip a hole out of the boat, after which despite their valiant efforts, there was not enough time to not only put Patriot back together again, but tune her & get everything back up to speed. LR ripped a wounded boat & her crew to pieces: a sad end to a $100m+ campaign.

    The real racing begins in 2 weeks...
     
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  7. Nero

    Nero Wiped Clean

    A bit of a whimper, but that LR team look well-oiled. No real mistakes, but to be fair, they weren't under pressure. Bring on the finals!

    I still can't get my head around 53 knots on the water. Those chase boats must have dual 400hp outboards. It's bad enough when you come off the trapeze at 15 knots. It fairly flushes your orifices.
     
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  8. jtrade

    jtrade pfm Member

    On a trip to Little Rock in the mid-80s, my business partner & I were taken out on the Arkansas River in a mid-size speedboat with a ridiculously large jet drive engine (can't remember how many hundreds of horsepower). We hurtled along the flat calm river at 60mph, so just over 52 knots, & I'll never forget the feeling of sheer terror that we might hit a submerged log at what felt like a mind-boggling speed to be traveling over the water. Never again....
     
  9. Ponty

    Ponty pfm Member

    It’s a shame the US couldn’t get the boat tuned for the semis.

    Ainslie vs Spithill. Should be good!
     
  10. peter bj

    peter bj pfm Member

    Big disappointment today with the Americans not really in either race and foil problems in the 2nd consigned them to last place . when the boats have been working well racing has been close and interesting so hoping for a good Prada Cup hopefully with a British win
     
  11. Nero

    Nero Wiped Clean

    It would be tragic irony if Ainslie won, so soon after the passing of Bob Fisher. RIP.
     
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  12. martin clark

    martin clark pinko bodger

    Funny you should say that, a couple of weeks ago I had the same thought and went poking-about the web a bit - you're exactly right, depending on which team / boats you're looking for, they are all 2-3 outboards totally >750+hp.

    Incredible tech to sail at those speeds, utterly spectacular. And with that, I'm about to watch the replay of the semi-finals (yes I know how it ends... but this stuff, and the quality of coverage and commentary on the live and other allied sailing Youtube channels is a rare treat; I'd recommend PlanetSail for some good insight for those who haven't already found it)
     
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  13. Spike

    Spike pfm Member

    I'm sure I saw one chase boat with two 425hp Yamaha outboards on! Insane!
     
  14. Nero

    Nero Wiped Clean

    I remember seeing a 400hp on the Mercury stand at Southampton Boat Show a couple of years ago (remember, we used to go to shows?). It was bigger than me, and the salesguy said he could do a deal on that one, for £90k. I didn't know if he was taking the p1ss or not, or if that included the rib it sat on.
     
  15. martin clark

    martin clark pinko bodger

    @Spike - At these speeds, in approaching 1m of chop - I bet the 'planing race yachts make an 800+hp RIB feel utterly vomit-inducing...
     
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  16. Nero

    Nero Wiped Clean

    They ain't planing. They's flyin'
     
  17. James

    James Lord of the Erg\o/s

    The lighter winds didn't do the Brits any favours today. The first race was over before it got started, when Ainslie and crew could not get their boat up on foils for the start. The second was much closer, but the Italians put on a masterclass of tactical sailing that was perfectly executed from start to finish.

    Let's see if Sir Ainslie can pull something out of the bag tomorrow. I now worry that Team New Zealand has not had much match racing practice, and might not do so well for the Cup races.
     
  18. Nero

    Nero Wiped Clean

    Luna Rossa looks slick. But Ben’s not known as the comeback king for nothing. Maybe they did a tweak too far in the shed
     
  19. Ponty

    Ponty pfm Member

    Luna was looking very good, fair play. Still, tomorrow is another day...
     
  20. Nero

    Nero Wiped Clean

    I think Rita’s got to find another 5-10 seconds a leg to stand a chance. Starts being equal, Luna still looks quicker
     

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