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All purpose football thread 20-21 season II

Discussion in 'off topic' started by Bob McC, Apr 14, 2021.

  1. tqineil

    tqineil Ubi fides ibi lux et robur

    Ref was very fair
     
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  2. murray johnson

    murray johnson pfm Member

    Well done Chelsea, fully deserved and, for the 3rd time in quick succession, comfortably saw off City.
     
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  3. tqineil

    tqineil Ubi fides ibi lux et robur

    Tonight’s not the night for arguing, City have been resting players since they qualified, look at Dortmund line up, 3-4 changes - KDB isn’t a false No 9 as he was this evening
     
  4. ks.234

    ks.234 pfm Member

    Rudiger and Azpilicueta stepping into midfield to get a foot in at vital times was key. Scary as hell to watch, but it worked
     
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  5. murray johnson

    murray johnson pfm Member

    I still find City's habit of making niggly little fouls to thwart an opposition break somewhat disappointing. It is cheating and needs to be eradicated from the game but they continue to get away with it.
     
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  6. vince rocker

    vince rocker pfm Member

    Good watch for a neutral. MOTM for me was Reece James and Kante was Kante. They stopped City from playing their game and Pep had no plan B. Did Aguero get a touch?
     
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  7. oldius

    oldius Can pleasure be measured?

    Well done. Enjoy the weekend and have a good week in school.
     
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  8. webster

    webster Listen & enjoy.

    I think that Chelsea performance was typical of what Tuchel has brought to the club.
    Commiserations to City fans but I think Chelsea edged it on the night.
    Kanté absolutely immense and without a doubt MOM.
     
  9. Bob McC

    Bob McC Living the life of Riley

    Knew you’d be along out of your crypt tonight.
    City Had great teachers in Scholes, Keane and all the other cheats that made it an art form at your club.
     
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  10. oldius

    oldius Can pleasure be measured?

    He was and is a great player. They edged it, it is as simple as that.
     
  11. NRG

    NRG pfm Member

    They where well drilled and organised at the back. Had a game plan and executed it well.
     
  12. Rack Kit

    Rack Kit pfm Member

    Said all along Chelsea were favourites.

    Nobody believed me...

    Congrats to Chelsea and as has been said by others, hopefully enjoyed by Jack Barron and can help give him a lift.

    Can't comment on the game because I didn't see much of it since I was working but hey ho.
     
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  13. Goldenmouse

    Goldenmouse pfm Member

    Pep tried to make himself look like 'the special one' and made a mess of it plain and simple.

    De Bruyne needs to be deeper and act as the quarterback - playing him as a false 9 or whatever his position was negated him.

    BBC Sport analysis puts it perfectly:

    Guardiola's strategy was high risk and the outcome suggests it was fatally flawed. He cannot escape scrutiny on his own part in a desperate night for City.

    He is one of the great coaches and managers who has shaped the way modern football is played, influenced so many other coaches, but this was a night when the old questions about over-thinking were asked again.

    It is hard to criticise a manager who has won the Premier League for three of the last four seasons but he tried a line-up he had never used before in arguably the biggest game in City's history after a season of domestic domination.

    Rodri and Fernandinho have figured in 60 out of 61 games for City this season, either individually or as a pair. Why change the strategy so radically and use this system in a match of such huge significance? Even seasoned, experienced operators such as Kevin de Bruyne, Ilkay Gundogan and Bernardo Silva, seemed uncertain of what their actual roles were.

    Guardiola's plan failed and he will have to accept the criticism that will inevitably come his way.

     
  14. tqineil

    tqineil Ubi fides ibi lux et robur

    I said as much when I saw the line ups an hour before kick off - Pep’s tinkering has cost City the big prize here - why change what works, same as Lyon last year?
     
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  15. omers

    omers pfm Member

    There's an expression in Yiddish "Uber Chuchem" (throaty "ch") meaning too smart for his own good.
     
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  16. omers

    omers pfm Member

    But there's hope for MC. Last year Pep (whom I adore) was too smart at the Lyon quarter final, yesterday it was the final, maybe next year he'll postpone this to the cup lifting.
     
  17. adamk

    adamk pfm Member

    Tinker man Pep got it wrong.
    What has he done to Raheem Sterling ?

    Am hoping Gareth goes with some of exciting young newbies rather than stale looking Sterling & Rashford
     
  18. oldius

    oldius Can pleasure be measured?

    In my view, the comments about tinkering are not warranted: he has lost to Chelsea 3 times on the run; if he'd have done the same thing then he would have been criticised for that. In a one-off game against an organised, skilled opponent, anything can happen, and it did.
     
  19. omers

    omers pfm Member

    You mean w/o a defensive midfielder with whom he played all games in the past year?
     
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  20. ks.234

    ks.234 pfm Member

    Not sure I understand the grief directed at Pep. At the end of the day, it was one game. Chelsea managed the city press in their previous two meetings, that he tried something different should be expected. It didn’t work, but that one error surely doesn’t take him from hero to zero.
     
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