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Alec Baldwin

Discussion in 'off topic' started by matt j, Oct 22, 2021.

  1. narabdela

    narabdela who?

    I always knew it as "other buggers' efforts". ;)
     
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  2. PaulMB

    PaulMB pfm Member

    5 hours ago

    (CNN)Crew members on the set of "Rust" used guns with live ammunition and engaged in a pastime called "plinking" hours before Halyna Hutchins was killed, founder and CEO of The Wrap, Sharon Waxman, told CNN's Don Lemon Monday night, citing information from an individual with knowledge of the set.

    One of the guns used was later handed to actor Alec Baldwin, who fired the shot that killed Hutchins, 42, and injured director Joel Souza, The Wrap reported.
     
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  3. wow&flutter

    wow&flutter pfm Member

    I haven’t been following this story but a tragic situation for everyone involved really. Why after the first shot that injured or killed somebody why would you fire again or did a single shot hit them both?
     
  4. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity

    Single shot. If the round passes through soft tissue at close range, it can easily carry on a a few hundred feet per second.
     
  5. wow&flutter

    wow&flutter pfm Member

    Thanks Tony, so the first party gets injured and the second killed?
     
  6. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity

    No. First killed, second injured.
     
  7. Joe Hutch

    Joe Hutch Mate of the bloke

    I recall reading somewhere a debunking of shooting (with guns) scenarios in films. Basically: 1) bullets don't get lodged inside you, they go out the other side, usually quite messily; 2) you don't twirl around after being hit by a bullet. You fall over backwards where you were standing.
     
  8. Euan

    Euan pfm Member

    Unless you are John F Kennedy whereby you slump forward.
     
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  9. PaulMB

    PaulMB pfm Member

    I think anything can happen, depending on where the bullets pass into a body, the type of bullets and the position of the "shootee." I remember reading that both the Germans and the Japanese would sometimes tie up two prisoners together and kill both with one bullet. A bullet could even pass through two people and hit a third.
     
  10. mansr

    mansr Objectionist

    3) If a bullet does get stuck inside you, taking it out won't make you feel any better.
     
  11. andyoz

    andyoz pfm Member

    It wouldn't surprise me. Crew away from families for extended periods on shit hours/pay...go a bit stir crazy...DRUGS!!!
     
  12. wacko

    wacko pfm Member

    ^ being an armourer on a film set has got to be one of the easiest jobs in the world. No excuses.
     
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  13. andyoz

    andyoz pfm Member

    Yes, it 'should' be easy/simple!!!
     
  14. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity

    The chant in the RAF was

    “A, I’m an armourer, B, I’m an armourer, C, I’m an armourer tooooooo”

    etc

    They could load bombs (no need to remove them) and clean small arms.
     
  15. Seeker_UK

    Seeker_UK Booyakashah, check out my avatar...

    IIRC, UK aircraft can land safely with bombs loaded. Fortunately, to paraphrase Mr Haynes, removal is the reverse of installation, so fairly straightforward.

    Plumbers also fit and maintain ejector seats. That should worry a few pilots.o_O
     
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  16. stevec67

    stevec67 pfm Member

    Not necessarily. As others have said, anything can happen. If it hits a bone it can turn, stop, anything. It depends on how heavy it is and how fast. A 44 Magnum is going to carry on a lot further than a .22. A bullet from a rifle is much faster than a handgun because all the time it's in the barrel of is accelerating.
     
  17. Tony Lockhart

    Tony Lockhart Avoiding Stress, at Every Opportunity

    Thankfully no ejection seats in Apaches :)
     
  18. Mullardman

    Mullardman Moderately extreme...

    I only ever knew one chap who had actually been shot. He was with the British Army in Aden and got hit in the front of his shoulder, basically between his heart and his shoulder joint. In other words, they very nearly blew his arm off.and a couple of inches in the other direction could have been in the heart. He ended up working with me in a foundry, where, despite a next to useless left arm..he still did his bit, including swinging big hammers.
    However, his description of the incident was that he was on patrol, then he was spun through 180 degrees and on his back before he had any idea he was shot..
     
  19. Ian G

    Ian G pfm Member

    I thought Moulinex bought out a design for helicopters? apparently trying to grab a slice from Martin Baker.
     
  20. PaulMB

    PaulMB pfm Member

    The assistant-director, Halls, has now admitted that he did not check "all the cartridges" in the gun before handing it to Baldwin with the words "Cold gun." I don't understand, since it would seem that "Cold gun" means there are no cartridges in the gun. So presumably he did not even look at the gun from the front of the drum, just assumed it was empty. Seems absolutely insane! Especially with three different guns lying around on the table.
     

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