A thread to catalogue the eloquence, dignity, diplomacy and wisdom of Boris Johnson

[russel]

Sunak's speech was the one people should keep in mind, Johnson's speech was just someone farting into a microphone for the media to talk about. Trivial rubbish. Sunak stood there and told the biggest and boldest bare-faced lies about everything he is charged with addressing. Every last thing he said was a complete lie.
He lied about 'borrowing' money and pretending this puts the British people into debt. Instead of waving all those big numbers about why doesn't he hop into his chauffeur-driven car and schedule a chat with the chairman of the Bank of England about no longer issuing any debt and letting it expire once the last round has matured? Or just repurchasing the lot and be done with it immediately? Then it would just go away and no one needs to wring their hands about 'public debt' ever again. He could do that. He may know or not know. If he knows then he's an economic terrorist as well as a liar.

The amazing figures showing how even modest growth was reversed when the Tories were elected under Cameron-Clegg should alarm the f*ck out of people, but it won't. The George Osborne cutting schedule arrested then reversed the course of recovery away from the trajectory put in place by the 'recovery package'. This stabilised it, the next move would have been to maintain that as the only existing sector among the sectoral balances left in that position to effect it. Instead they chose austerity, to shrink their deficit on the wholly incoherent view that this somehow 'pays down debt'. Because people still think 'public debt' is something accrued by even non-discretionary deficit expansion. The public are sadly unschooled on this and so are many people charged with dealing with it. The country ought to be afraid.

And so Sunak stood there and basically said that he was going to do the same thing as Osborne. He also said a totally contradictory thing: that the Tories would do 'whatever it takes' to save people from ruination....but he still proposed the same solution as Osborne. And people clapped in that hall. Some newspapers and right-wing periodicals thought it was correct and lots of people in the population seemed to think it was probably good because that evil debt mountain (gilt-edged securities sold to rich people for their portfolios, using money borrowed from the bank of England) will be dealt with. Because he said the equivalent of: I'm going to save you from drowning, by taking away your life-jacket. They clapped that moronic horseshit.

F*cking Nora.

I think the fundamentalist ideology they follow means less government spending means a smaller state, so less people to keep an eye on what they are up to, plus of course someone has to issue debt otherwise the economy would collapse and his mates at Goldmine Sachs and the like get an awful lot richer if private finance do it rather than the government if the rest of the country gets stiffed, well too bad.

 

[Le Baron]

I think the fundamentalist ideology they follow means less government spending means a smaller state..

Yes it does mean that according to their ideology. The government doesn't have to issue 'public debt' though. The economy wouldn't collapse because none of that 'debt'/sale of bonds is funding the economy, it has a wholly different function and historically is an anachronism. That's the infuriating thing. If firms want to issue their commercial paper and other instruments I suppose that's up to them, but the whole edifice of the stock market is now propped-up on these gilt sales at the bottom. So it's merely corporate welfare.

If his pals at Goldman Sachs et al didn't have an intravenous tube running from their coffers to government spending they would be dead in the water.

 

[droodzilla]

They've had,,, the time of their lives... etc:

https://twitter.com/DominicPenna/status/1445802589308604421

Laura Kuenssberg and Michael Gove had a dance-off and rap battle as one Tory MP sang Ice Ice Baby at karaoke last night Kuenssberg’s BBC colleague Lewis Goodall then gave Dancing Queen his best shot — after quipping: “Have we got any Tory scum in the audience?”

All normal stuff in a mature liberal democracy.

Meanwhile, millions of families find themselves £1000 a year worse off today, facing a Winter of rising fuel bills.

 

[Le Baron]

Laura Kuenssberg is so transparently right-wing she is a liability to the delivery of news.

 

[The Far North]

Definitely getting the feeling that Rupert doesn't like Boris (from today's Times)

 

[TheDecameron]

Definitely getting the feeling that Rupert doesn't like Boris (from today's Times)

It’s getting very interesting- one of their correspondents is calling him “a clown”. I reckon the Australian Corpse is backing the more fiscally pleasing Sunak. Meanwhile at the more obviously gutter end of the Great Brexit British press, they’re taking a leaf out of Boris’s own book of fantasy:

Boris is Iron Man, ready to take on all perceived enemies, foreign and domestic. Slap down, erupt, unleash.

 

[Joe Hutch]

He has transformed from Britain Trump to Britain Putin.

 

[TheDecameron]

The look on Sunak’s face during the speech- watching Chauncey the gardener up on stage, wondering who else was smelling the bullshit while singing along for the cameras.

 

[canonman]

It’s getting very interesting- one of their correspondents is calling him “a clown”. I reckon the Australian Corpse is backing the more fiscally pleasing Sunak. Meanwhile at the more obviously gutter end of the Great Brexit British press, they’re taking a leaf out of Boris’s own book of fantasy:

Boris is Iron Man, ready to take on all perceived enemies, foreign and domestic. Slap down, erupt, unleash.

Oooh, careful Dec or you will receive this from another member

For those who would rather lick pissed on thistles than click on a Daily Express link...

 

[SteveS1]

Oooh, careful Dec or you will receive this from another member

For those who would rather lick pissed on thistles than click on a Daily Express link...

Err, Dec hasn't posted a link - so none of the guff and pop ups that accompany tabloid links. It wasn't a pop at you the same applies to links to The Sun and Daily Heil.

 

[TheDecameron]

The Express looks like it’s been left to compete with The Star for market share. Camilla Tominey bailed out to go to The Telegraph before her CV got permanently damaged. It was the paper I remember at home up until the mid-70s. It must have been Porno Desmond who took it down to its current state?

 

[ks.234]

It’s getting very interesting- one of their correspondents is calling him “a clown”. I reckon the Australian Corpse is backing the more fiscally pleasing Sunak. Meanwhile at the more obviously gutter end of the Great Brexit British press, they’re taking a leaf out of Boris’s own book of fantasy:

Boris is Iron Man, ready to take on all perceived enemies, foreign and domestic. Slap down, erupt, unleash.

Shouldn’t there be an accompanying picture of a Spitfire somewhere near that headline?

 

[Joe Hutch]

Though ours was very much a Labour household, my parents bought the Sunday Express and the Sunday Post, both right-wing papers in their way. The thing they had in common was that in neither was the remotest chance of anything even vaguely 'rude' appearing in their pages.

Going to visit my aunt and uncle was a rare treat, as they took the People and News of the World, full of scantily-clad Scandinavian actresses, and stories about naughty vicars and Scoutmasters.

 

[Dogberry]

The look on Sunak’s face during the speech- watching Chauncey the gardener up on stage, wondering who else was smelling the bullshit while singing along for the cameras.

I quite liked that movie.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Being_There

 

[TheDecameron]

I quite liked that movie.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Being_There

Yeah but it was satire! This is happening for real

 

[kendo]

It’s getting very interesting- one of their correspondents is calling him “a clown”. I reckon the Australian Corpse is backing the more fiscally pleasing Sunak. Meanwhile at the more obviously gutter end of the Great Brexit British press, they’re taking a leaf out of Boris’s own book of fantasy:

Boris is Iron Man, ready to take on all perceived enemies, foreign and domestic. Slap down, erupt, unleash.

Iron Pyrite Man would possibly be more accurate...

 

[The Far North]

It’s getting very interesting- one of their correspondents is calling him “a clown”. I reckon the Australian Corpse is backing the more fiscally pleasing Sunak. Meanwhile at the more obviously gutter end of the Great Brexit British press, they’re taking a leaf out of Boris’s own book of fantasy:

Boris is Iron Man, ready to take on all perceived enemies, foreign and domestic. Slap down, erupt, unleash.

That's looking perilously close to a "Sieg heil" salute, but maybe that's what's making the Express so excited.

 

[Nick_G]

Iron Pyrite Man would possibly be more accurate...

https://canadianmuseumofnature.wordpress.com/2019/01/09/pyrite-disease/

Iron Pyrite Man will no doubt suffer 'pyrite disease' when exposed to too much reality over the forthcoming winter...

 

[Lee T]

Yet for all this, Boris is still ahead in the polls. Either those who take part are happy to be miserable for the foreseeable or too stupid to see past the clown act.

He has character though does Boris, charisma, which is precisely what this country needs right now. I half expected him to shout, clenched fist, we will fight them on the beaches. f******* arse.

 

[Dogberry]

Yet for all this, Boris is still ahead in the polls. Either those who take part are happy to be miserable for the foreseeable or too stupid to see past the clown act.

He has character though does Boris, charisma, which is precisely what this country needs right now. I half expected him to shout, clenched fist, we will fight them on the beaches. f******* arse.

"The worthlessness of the object does not diminish but irritate the propensity to admire. "Hazlitt.