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And from today's Times.
A thread to catalogue the eloquence, dignity, diplomacy and wisdom of Boris Johnson: IV VONC
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Sue Pertwee-Tyr
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I'm beginning to wonder whether, actually, the current incumbents are throwing the party under the bus just to continue feathering their nests as long as possible. Maybe they've figured that the gig is up so they just need to milk it for as long as possible because when it's over, it's over. That would help explain the 'I know I'm lying to you and I just don't care' attitude among politicians who might reasonably be expected to be seeking reelection at some point.
Sue Pertwee-Tyr
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I'm not sure it's cynical so much as just base instinct. They're painting themselves into a corner, electorally, so have decided it's shit or bust time.
PsB
Citizen of Nowhere™
(cross posted from the Brexit thread)
How's this one for irony and pig-headed arrogance:
"UK Minister warns US politicians to mind their language over Northern Ireland".
"Conor Burns, a Northern Ireland minister and close ally of Boris Johnson, said some US politicians risked empowering violent elements within the province in their public comments on the protocol."
https://www.ft.com/content/7b737d11-d2c7-4487-bf1a-1663106811d0 (paywall)
Conor Burns has decided to take the Special Relationship to another level.
Coming from the people that have been stirring the sectarian pot for several years over the NIP, this is a bit rich, even by the loose standards of Boris' administration. Also, a junior UK minister publicly threatening the US Congress is always going to work well, innit?
How's this one for irony and pig-headed arrogance:
"UK Minister warns US politicians to mind their language over Northern Ireland".
"Conor Burns, a Northern Ireland minister and close ally of Boris Johnson, said some US politicians risked empowering violent elements within the province in their public comments on the protocol."
https://www.ft.com/content/7b737d11-d2c7-4487-bf1a-1663106811d0 (paywall)
Conor Burns has decided to take the Special Relationship to another level.
Coming from the people that have been stirring the sectarian pot for several years over the NIP, this is a bit rich, even by the loose standards of Boris' administration. Also, a junior UK minister publicly threatening the US Congress is always going to work well, innit?
Sue Pertwee-Tyr
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It reminds me of a certain defence secretary telling the Chinese to shut up and go away.
PsB
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Except these are Allies, cousins, partners, etc.
TheDecameron
Unicorns fart glitter.
Sad isn’t it- when Mr. Trump was in office, America was going to be our best new buddy. Two British Prime Ministers embarrassingly prostrated themselves before him, even getting the Queen to roll out the red carpet for his clan. America would stand with us and the pencils were being sharpened for an amazing new US-UK trade deal. The Anglosphere was back!
Now a tiny and not much known fist shakes in Washington’s direction. It is attached to a man called Conor Burns whom no one in Britain could pick out in an identity parade.
Now a tiny and not much known fist shakes in Washington’s direction. It is attached to a man called Conor Burns whom no one in Britain could pick out in an identity parade.
gavreid
Pretty Words...
sean99
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ISTR that the opinion Poll on the Rwanda deportation flights showed strong support from conservative (and Brexit) voters, so it's quite possible that the government is playing to their base, much like Trump did. Seen from this angle the Rwanda policy is (like Trump's child migrants in cages) a no-lose situation. If it comes to pass their detestable voting base will celebrate, and if it's blocked by legal means they can rail against the "system" and "unelected elites" and rile their base up.
It's to be hoped that this base of, frankly deplorables - Hillary called that one correctly, is not big enough to carry the next election, but it's very disheartening that the next election will even be close (which it will). If not for Covid I'm afraid Trump would have won a second term and that might have ended up being a worse situation than Covid.
SteveS1
I heard that, pardon?
Taxi for the Minister for Ethics.
https://news.sky.com/story/prime-ministers-ethics-adviser-lord-geidt-resigns-12634638
He must have played back Crace's sketch of his performance. Too late to salvage any sense of self worth if it took him this long to realise he was served up as Minister for Ethics in a complete moral vacuum.
https://news.sky.com/story/prime-ministers-ethics-adviser-lord-geidt-resigns-12634638
He must have played back Crace's sketch of his performance. Too late to salvage any sense of self worth if it took him this long to realise he was served up as Minister for Ethics in a complete moral vacuum.
SteveS1
I heard that, pardon?
The type you don't take if you have anything about you. Knowing who it was for.
paulfromcamden
Baffled
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Barrymagrec
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To lose one ethics adviser is unfortunate, to lose two looks like carelessness.
TheDecameron
Unicorns fart glitter.
Lord Git (who he?)- to paraphrase James Melville- “Boris’s silly vassal” and “with no power comes little responsibility”.
“A senior source in Number 10 said Lord Geidt's resignation came as "a total surprise" and is "a mystery" to Mr Johnson”.
"Only on Monday Lord Geidt asked if he could stay on for six months," the source added”.
….must have moved on himself.
“A senior source in Number 10 said Lord Geidt's resignation came as "a total surprise" and is "a mystery" to Mr Johnson”.
"Only on Monday Lord Geidt asked if he could stay on for six months," the source added”.
….must have moved on himself.
ks.234
Half way to Infinity
Or just a lack of ethics
Dave H.
Revolutionary relativist
Apparently he provided a long letter explaining his reasons for quitting. If that’s true, a) Mr Johnson is lying about it being a mystery (hardly surprising) and b) I really hope it leaks!
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