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A review of some amps on home demo: Naim v Luxman v Devialet v Vitus

The background

I am writing this as when I was looking for amps I found very little written about some of these models I was investigating, so I thought other people might be interested in a subjective view and listening comparison between these models.

In 2017 I decided that my Naim system required an upgrade – the power amp was a weak link and it was buzzing, it needed a service. The system consisted of the following:
- CDS3 with XPS DR power supply
- NAC 552 DR preamp with the NAC 552 PS
- NAP 250 power amp
- B&W 804 Diamond speakers

I felt that the very old 250 needed not only servicing but upgrading too. To get the most out of the NAC 552 I felt that I really needed a NAP 300. A NAP 300 meant I would need a new rack as the 300 requires a separate power supply and I was all out of shelves. A 300 and a new rack meant a big investment. So I looked at the alternatives.

I bought a couple of hifi magazines - what a waste of time that was. Hifi mags back in the 80s and 90s were interesting things with good writing and critical reviews. Now they are simply a sales brochure for the hardware with 5* review after 5* review. Each and every review was a testament to how brilliant and faultless each product was. And no surprise to find the same companies taking out pages of expensive ads in the magazine. But hey, that’s a debate for another day.

So I did a bit of my own research and over the next few months I home-demoed 4 different manufacturer’s amps: Vitus, Luxman, Devialet and the Naim with a NAP300. I always home demo if I can as my room has some acoustic issues (a bass boom) and things can sound very different in there. My budget was the trade-in value of the Naim amps, so around £10k. The aim was also to reduce the number of boxes without compromising the sound. Could this be done? Throughout the home demos described below both the source and the speakers remained the same (NAIM CDS3 / XPS DR and B&W 804 Diamond speakers). I did also demo the Vitus RCD-101 as an alternative to the NAIM CDS3 but the two CD players interestingly sounded broadly similar. But then the CDS3 is known to be a fairly rounded sound for Naim, and certainly a world away from the grit of the Naim CDX. Anyway, I digress.


Vitus Vs Naim

Naim NAC552+PS £20k NAP 300+PS £7k = £27k
Vitus RI-100 £10k (with on-board dac)

An integrated amp? Back when I was at school I spent my formative years with an integrated amp (I’m looking at you NAD 3020e) longing for the day when I could separate into pre- and power amp heaven. So the idea of an integrated amp took some getting used to. But cutting down from a potential 4 to 1 box worth of amplification was tempting. This was the first non-Naim product I had listened to at home for over 20 years. To start with I was rather unimpressed. The RI-100 was running cold, the Naim sounded as PRaTy as ever and after half an hour of A/B testing I had dismissed the Vitus.

A couple of days later, with the Vitus having been idling on heat for 48 hours, I sat and listened to some music. Now things were sounding very different. Instead of going back and forth to do A/B testing I just sat and listened. I was slowly but surely drawn into what was happening. This was different. I am no hifi poet, as the writers in the mags are, but what I can say is that for the first time familiar tracks began to sound more complete, more like music. Whereas the Naim sounded exciting and toe-tapping (the over-used but perfectly described PRaT) the Vitus sounded like music. Getting as technical as I am able: the Naim had a lower-mid and digital treble boost, this made it exciting but it had always had a tendency to grate on certain recordings, what's more I would have a fatigued ear after an hour at anything other than low volume. Not so the Vitus. And I now understand the word transparent. The music just is. And the music had depth, I mean a three-dimensionality.

After living with the Vitus for a few evenings I went back to jump-up & sit-down A/B testing. The 552/300 combo would somehow overemphasise parts of the music. So, John Martyn’s Solid Air: the Naim throws the vocal as a distinct ‘thing’ in front of the speaker, separated form the music behind, but now I realised this was not a natural thing, and there was little more depth than that. The Vitus sat music from the plane of the speaker and behind, a long way behind, into the space. But it sounded somehow more organic. I want to be able to describe the differences but I am finding the words hard to articulate.
So with the Vitus we are looking at a sweeter treble, a less forward sound but no less detailed, and a very transparent mid. And the bass? The B&W 804 Diamonds are light on bass, the way I like it as I have a boomy room, but the bass was tighter with the Vitus, much tighter. The Naim sometimes sounds like it has a bit of a lower mid or is it upper bass exaggeration and this was absent from the Vitus. That effect (colouration?) on the Naim yields some recordings a warmth in that register that the Vitus would sometimes lack. But that very exaggeration in those frequencies meant that on direct comparison that the Naim didn't sound quite as organically whole.

If I was playing rock or dance/electronic or current, heavily compressed, music the Naim was initially more impressive. But with a balanced diet of music I was all-in for the Vitus. Given the price of the Vitus new is a bit over 40% of the price of the Naim new, and it is one box vs four…it all seemed too good to be true. Who’d have thought an integrated amp could sound so good. If music could sound so different I was excited to explore the other options.



Luxman Vs Naim

Naim NAC552+PS £20k NAP 300+PS £7k = £27k
Luxman C700U pre £6k and M-700U Power £6k

Next up was the Luxman two box solution. If the Vitus made things sound more natural the Luxman was a different beast altogether. The Luxman was like listening to velvet. Music enveloped you, it was SO warm and lush. There was not even a hint of the harsh treble the Naim could throw out on certain recordings. Female vocals were sumptuous, and best of all 50s and 60s swing recordings (I’m talking Sinatra et al) sounded incredible. In fact most recordings up until the mid-70s were presented beautifully by the Luxman. Even rock sounded good, or at least Dark Side by Pink Floyd did, grittier rock such as Led Zeppelin was a little soft. Where the Luxman fell down for me was the lack of excitement and detail. So when the music was simple and swinging (Sinatra), or had good rock textures (Floyd), or had a harder-edged female vocal, it was excellent, softening the edges to a sound of luxury. But if the music had a lot of detail, or a strong beat to it, then it lacked the excitement of the Naim and it lacked the natural transparency of the Vitus, and I missed these big time. Classical music, which I thought would benefit here, could sound muddy when it got complex,and lacked detail when it was simple chamber music. Daft Punk or Kraftwerk sounded soft and a little turgid. But despite that I really liked the Luxman, really liked it.

In a few years I can see myself returning to the Luxman when I want a softer, gentler sound. It’s a return to the womb, for times to be enveloped in blurred but sumptuous music. But for now it just lacked the dynamism I wanted.


Devialet Vs Naim

Devialet 220 £6k
Naim NAC552+PS £20k NAP 300+PS £7k = £27k

This is a unfair on the Devialet as we are not comparing like with like. The Naim gear is £27k’s worth compared to a £6k Devialet. Nevertheless I will report on what I heard.

The technology and look of the Devialet is impressive. Here is an integrated amp that looks a little like a sleek set of bathroom scales, and certainly no thicker and not much heavier, and it was up against the 4 box Naim, the 2 box Luxman and the chunky tall and exceedingly heavy Vitus. The Devialet was optimised for my speakers through the on-board software.

But I found the sound was not to my liking. It had the brashness of the Naim without the excitement and the refinement. Whilst the 552/300 combo is exciting it really does have refinement. And when you hear the Devialet at one-quarter of the price you really notice that refinement difference. Compared to the Luxman and the Vitus (still unfair as the Devialet is an amp at around half the price) the Devialet had detail but it lacked the musicality of the Vitus and was not subtle in the way it portrayed the music. The bass was looser than the Naim. I don’t have so much to say: whereas the Vitus and the Luxman were very different to each other and to the Naim, the Devialet was broadly similar to the presentation of the Naim, but just not as good in all departments.



CONCLUSION

The Naim, Vitus and Luxman are all very different beasts and all have their attractive qualities. Like much high-end hi-fi some of this amplification suits some types of music and some ears better than others. For my ears right now the Vitus was the clear winner. There are types of music which sounded more impressive on the Naim, and types which just sounded better on the Luxman. But for all-round detailed, transparent, three dimensional, musical presentation the Vitus was a clear winner. And in one box, who’d have thought it?

The Vitus did most things better than the Naim, whereas the Luxman just did things differently. So between Vitus and Naim there is no contest for me, and with the new price being £27k Naim v £10k Vitus the Naim makes no sense to me. With Vitus v Naim I would wager most extended blind testing would fall for the Vitus as it does most of what it does better and it does not fatigue at all. There is the 'Naim sound' which is very evident when you compare it to the transparency of the Vitus, and I can see there is an immediacy to that which some may prefer. But after you have heard the Vitus the Naim sound actually starts to sound wrong. It's an odd sensation. With Vitus v Luxman the difference needs to be heard as it’s warm velvet vs clear water. You have to hear the difference to know which you’ll like better.

If only I’d known this 20 years ago I maybe would never have gone blindly for Naim. Though maybe it’s that other manufacturers have caught up with Naim, or maybe I just fell for the marketing of Naim and those lovely olive boxes back in 1998 when I finally moved my NAD 3020e on and into the basic Naim system. After that I just blindly followed the Naim upgrade path.

I’ve been doing a fair bit of demoing of cables, speakers and sources recently. If that is of interest to people here on this forum then let me know and I’ll get around to writing them up one day.
 
I just Place an Order for Brand new 552 for my nap300dr! İt is a Classic...

Should i add a superline as well? Replacing my Brinkmann Fein...
 
I just Place an Order for Brand new 552 for my nap300dr! İt is a Classic...

Should i add a superline as well? Replacing my Brinkmann Fein...

EMRIE, I powered my Superline with a Supercap, and am not alone in thinking that this is the combo that really brings out the best in a superb phono stage. I s'pose you could power one off the 552 temporarily (I had my Headline off my 552)
 
Replacement for SIA-025 coming soon too apparently.

I've also gone through the Naim journey and think the OP nails it in the original write-up. I spent a lot of time with Vitus (SIA-025, SL-103 / SM-011 / SS-103) and liked a lot of what I heard and appreciate why it's the end-point for many. However, there are other amps out there which reveal Vitus to be quite coloured and masking a lot of detail. If you like this presentation then all good, and a lot could depend on the rest of the system / room acoustics. One advantage is that it helps mask poor recordings.

For me, however, I wanted more detail retrieval, so ended up elsewhere. I guess my recommendation therefore would be to try and back-to-back Vitus with something different just to make sure you are happy with the style of presentation. In the OP's list of kit, this wouldn't be Luxman, and probably not Devialet either.

I owned just about every combination of David's amplifiers over the years in both active and passive setups.

I switched to Devialet.

I don't miss the Bernings although they are all very good indeed.

Experiences such as these suggest that there is something else at play rather than amp quality or performance outright. Either component-speaker-room matching, personal taste or a combined effect of some of these elements.

Case in point:-

The OP finds the Vitus SIA-025 to be superior to the Naim NAC 552.

Heihei finds the Berning to be superior to the Vitus SIA-025 and couple more Vitus amps, and Naim.

Merlin finds the Devialet to be superior to all combination of Berning amps.

*There are few who find the Naim to be superior to Devialet amps.

Although this interesting pattern doesn't tell you much, it's back to square one with the Naim..
 
Experiences such as these suggest that there is something else at play rather than amp quality or performance outright. Either component-speaker-room matching, personal taste or a combined effect of some of these elements.

This was probably my point. That the speakers used, and personal taste when it comes to the poster, make the post in question only interesting in that it tells us what one individual likes, in a sighted comparison, with a specific loudspeaker. It gives no guidance to others.

Merlin finds the Devialet to be superior to all combination of Berning amps.

I would rarely use the word "superior". In this case, I would say there is remarkably little difference into an easy load (I used Berning with Merlin loudspeakers and a custom design with a benign impedance curve.) Into a more challenging load, Bernings will, by their very design, offer more colouration. I like both the Bernings and the Devialets. The latter are however an awful lot easier to live with on a day to day basis and I don't have to worry about any hours racked up on Telefunken 6 or WE 300b's.
 
I think we all realise that the engaging resume by the o.p. was based upon his own system/environment. The former here are the speakers, of course, as the same source was used. I've learnt, over the last year or so, that a pre. I had lived with in different combinations of kit (the 552) and considered to be the bee's knees, can be bettered; and how ! Nothing to do with the 552; all to do with synergy, I'm sure.
 
This is a great thread and highlights a number of important aspects of hifi, as well as the big challenge we face in the UK, which is hearing a wide enough range of comparable stuff in a suitable environment, ideally your home.

As some have highlighted, the importance of the room, speakers, musical preferences, and ultimately personal taste, make the journey of putting together a system that satisfies over the long-term really tough and wrought with not-inconsiderable financial downsides to getting it wrong. I sold my Naim stuff at the start of 2017 and still haven't completed my replacement system.

As I noted above, the biggest challenge is hearing enough kit - many retailers will only stock one or two products at a certain price-point making it very difficult to compare apples to apples across a wide range of makes. Add to that system synergies and it becomes a minefield. Even if you are lucky enough to find a dealer with a wider choice, chances are that the choice is driven by their own tastes or their ties to certain distributors, so may not match yours.

Home demos can also be difficult - whilst I understand that this requires significant effort on behalf of the dealer, some make the assumption that a home demo = sale. I had one particularly challenging instance where a distributor was extremely rude to my wife.

As a note on Constellation / Soulution etc being comparators to Vitus price-wise, many of these brands have introduced ranges with lower price points (albeit still pretty pricey) which might offer a good comparison.

To the point on speed - agreed outright it can become edgy, but think this is where system synergy comes in. I use a valved DAC into the Bernings which I suspect makes a big difference in the overall balance of the presentation.
 
Evaluate equipment from various retailers at this price point they should be only too willing.
You might also include an amp with similar specification but much lower SRP, see if you can hear a difference.
Keith
 
This is a great thread and highlights a number of important aspects of hifi, as well as the big challenge we face in the UK, which is hearing a wide enough range of comparable stuff in a suitable environment, ideally your home.

Having lived in the UK for many years and now living elsewhere - you are absolutely blessed to have amazing dealers in the UK, it's never too far to travel to hear most kit and many dealers will let you borrow for home demos (I certainly had that with Infidelity and Oxford Audio Consultants and also great demos at Cymbiosis.)
 
If you cant home audition , then cannily buy used which you can listen to and pass on without losing the farm if its not for you.
Its very rare that a dealer will allow extended home auditions here in south africa , albeit Vivid did so for me for my G1 to G1 spirits upgrade
 
Really interesting read this. Like Mike Reed I have EAR Yoshino, although quite different and less expensive seperates (EAR 802 + EAR 516). My most recent trouble began with a review of the Aesthetix Mimas integrated amp, then I saw a NAT Single integrated amp up for sale in my parts, and all that resulted in the thought of going (temptation to go) integrated once and for all. Reading about Vitus amps did nothing to cure my curiosity. So I am in the process of swallowing the bait.

I did listen to the first iteration of Devialet a few years back and at the time I did not take to the sound, which means that I found nothing that lifted the SQ and music enjoyment above the Naim 252 / Nap 200 x 2 (active) that I owned at the time. I also had a Mcintosh C48 pre in my system for a short while but I did not like what it did in my system that I owned at the time. So Mcintosh is not for me. Vitus I have not listened to (or through).
 
Really interesting read this. Like Mike Reed I have EAR Yoshino, although quite different and less expensive seperates (EAR 802 + EAR 516). My most recent trouble began with a review of the Aesthetix Mimas integrated amp, then I saw a NAT Single integrated amp up for sale in my parts, and all that resulted in the thought of going (temptation to go) integrated once and for all. Reading about Vitus amps did nothing to cure my curiosity. So I am in the process of swallowing the bait.

I did listen to the first iteration of Devialet a few years back and at the time I did not take to the sound, which means that I found nothing that lifted the SQ and music enjoyment above the Naim 252 / Nap 200 x 2 (active) that I owned at the time. I also had a Mcintosh C48 pre in my system for a short while but I did not like what it did in my system that I owned at the time. So Mcintosh is not for me. Vitus I have not listened to (or through).

I had an EAR V20 integrated amp a few years ago, which was a definite improvement over the Naim equipment it replaced, although I wasn't as far up the Naim tree as you.

I've liked what Devialet and Kii can do, when I have listened to demos. However as far as digital is concerned, the best I have heard is CAD. If I was going to spend that much money though, I'd be tempted by the analogue and valve world of TRON. A handmade amplifier for life sounds like a good idea to me.

Jack
 
Jack.
I could have lived on with the Naim Nac 252, I think, but I sold it to free cash for a vacation or two with my family. Then of course I started on another mad hifi journey that should have brought me straight to one of the interesting integrated amps mentione here rather than a string of more or less expensive seperate amps ....

I have eyed the following integrated amps which I may begin my own thread about:
AudioPlan Sitar
Vitus (various integrated amps)
Aestetix Mimas (with phono stage)
NAT Single
Air Tight 201H
Karan i180 mk. II
 


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