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A mellow night at Chez GruntPuppy - Doggo Training was Successful!!!

We lost our Labrador cross last July. We may end up looking after our daughters dog if she can’t take him with her but if that doesn’t happen I’m tempted to look out for a beagle type mutt.

I've been thinking about how to respond to this post - obviously putting a "like" under the post would, quite possibly, be seen to be in poor taste.

Losing a dog leaves a waggy-tailed hole in the home, and it can take a long time before you're ready to fill it, and just as long finding the right dog as well. I would suggest that moving from a Lab to a beagle type would be a difficult shift as you'd be going from a relatively laid-back (unless food's involved!) breed to one with a significant prey drive, high energy and high intelligence that would take a lot of effort to keep entertained and happy.

I realise that this is pretty much a "one sided" viewpoint and that individual dogs are just that - and their individual behaviours and characters cover a massive spectrum of quirks and traits - but spending a little time with the potential breed of choice, chatting on an enthusiasts' forum for that breed, would be a thing to do.

Either way - should your daughter be able to take her dog with her, I hope that you and the right dog find each other.
 
Tyson Snoop Doggy Dog Gilbert (all pronounced with a French accent) actually likes his cage. He comes to work with me all day but when I bring him home he gets really excited at the door and then just legs it into his cage as soon as the front door opens. We never even close the cage door, he just likes it in there.

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Chubbly gets free access to his crate - the door is left open - but when he's PUT in there and the door is locked, he regrets poor behaviour, and is less likely to repeat it. He's improving.

I'm trying to figure out the French pronunciation of "Tyson Snoop Doggy Dog Gilbert" right now... is "Teesawn Snuup Deurgy Deurg Jeelberr" in the right ballpark, or have I just destroyed any chance of a reconciliation with Europe?
 
Chubbly gets free access to his crate - the door is left open - but when he's PUT in there and the door is locked, he regrets poor behaviour, and is less likely to repeat it. He's improving.

I'm trying to figure out the French pronunciation of "Tyson Snoop Doggy Dog Gilbert" right now... is "Teesawn Snuup Deurgy Deurg Jeelberr" in the right ballpark, or have I just destroyed any chance of a reconciliation with Europe?
You could add a quick 'ah haw, hee haw' on the end, for luck.
 
OK, I'm venting here.

I think this dog is a punishment for something I did in a past life. Maybe I looted and pillaged a nunnery, or sold Sinclair hifi to unsuspecting innocents, something along those lines (selling the Sinclair kit would have probably been the worse sin, since there's the chance of multiple houses being burned to the ground as well). Whatever is was, for my sins, this dog has appeared in my life, wreaking untold chaos.

I can't turn around without this dog being THERE. For Pratchett Readers, I would describe this dog as being as persistent as one of the ravens from the Tower of Arts, he has a special look and body language that translates DIRECTLY as "watcha doin, mifter?"

I should have called him Procrastination, because he is a thief of time. And my socks. MY socks. and getting them back... oh sweet Jesus, I was not prepared for this. I walk him four times a day, each walk being 50 to 75 minutes. Admittedly it's very much on a walk/pause/repeat basis, but still - it happens. I'd like to be in a position to miss a walk every now and then - but - house training is an issue.

But not in the way YOU'RE automatically assuming, oh no. He doesn't soil in the house at all. But once, JUST ONCE, I would like this dog to pee or poo in the back garden. JUST ONCE! But nooo.... there's a park around the corner. He knows it, I know it, and damn, but he WON'T GO ANYWHERE ELSE!

As a consequence, I've lost 4 inches of waistline in 2 weeks, and have to buy another new belt. I was WARM, dammit! I was able to sit quite happily in my layer of natural insulation, and be quite toasty and content. that's gone right out the window.

Dinner times are particularly fun. He gets two meals a day of complete puppy food. It's not complete as far as he's concerned, oh no. At his previous place of residence, he learned about corned beef. Without corned beef, he won't even LOOK at his food. So I have to cut a slice of corned beef, microwave it until it goes mushy, and then mix it in with his puppy food. But it doesn't stop there. Oh no.

This dog... is a big bugger. At 10 months, he's 25% bigger than the accepted "maximum" height and weight for a fully mature German Shepherd, and still growing prodigiously. Approximately 120lb of concentrated anarchy. With a fast growing puppy, the problem of joint support and development has to be considered carefully. So as a supplement to help with joint health, he gets salmon oil added to his meals. He actually likes this stuff. It's great. His coat is beautifully glossy too. The problem is the OTHER supplement.

He also gets a chondroitin and glucosamine supplement. He doesn't like this. AT ALL. "Dissolve in your dog's drinking water, or mix into food" they said. HA! The hellhound gives a carefully considered look of disdain, and will NOT touch the tainted foodstuffs.

I have to make cheese sauce and mix it into that. THAT gets eaten at least.

This dog is also a natural born communist. He wants to share EVERYTHING. Including whatever we're eating. So I now cook dog-friendly meals, and make sure there's extra for a four-legged moocher to have after we finish eating.

Thankfully the biting for attention has mostly been cured - it continues to decrease daily, and I now have a pet corrector aerosol which stops him in his tracks, it produces a puff of air, and a loud sqwooshy noise. This has a startling effect on the targetted dog - it's a really useful bit of kit that can be used to correct unwanted behaviours without physical force being applied.

As they're bloody expensive, I'm happy to say that I can do a pretty good "chhhhwarrrf" noise that closely approximates the aerosol, with similar results.

I should say- this dog does NOT lack for attention, or play. Or toys. Or chewy things. Or treats.

A three hour session with a dog trainer resulted in him now walking to heel on the lead, and in me learning to control this canine disaster zone a little better. The sooner we start having obedience classes for him, the better (he starts in just under 3 weeks). I may see if there's another one-to-one session before that. Which brings me to my next problem.

I'm selling off excess audio to pay for the various expenses this dog has generated. My plan? Photograph an item, list on ebay, PACK IMMEDIATELY and store the parcel. This does NOT happen. I set up a photographic area to try and take a decent pic or two... it's immediately destroyed by Bugger Bones. This dog has, I think, been bred by Ninjas (did you know "Ninja" is an English word, the result of an incorrect translation of the word "Shinobi" by Ian Fleming? No? Neither did I until recently). He is a master of the Ninja Nose Prod of Death. This technique wakes me at 6.29 and 55 seconds each morning, just before my alarm goes off at 6.30. The death prod makes maximum use of the Cold Wet Nose of Utter Surprise at this time as well. It destroys normally stable stacks of ANYTHING. In short, very little happens without extreme hassle.

Talking of expenses... training harness. There are many good brands of training harnesses for sale in the UK. None of them is, apparently adequate for my purposes - we found that attaching his lead to a d-ring located in the chest area gave the best control. Apart from cheap knockoffs, there's one company producing this mil-spec item. They're in Israel. Their prices start at about $40 for the harness. Then you add $15 because he's XL size (seriously. This dog takes the same size harness as a great goddamn dane), then you add the $22 shipping.. then you add the real sting in the tail - import duty. £23. So this one item costs about £70-80. There are many other little things, and MY GOD those little things have added up!!!

He's asleep right now. So I'm taking a few minutes to vent. If I were to stand up though... "watcha doin, Mifter?"

Tomorrow my ex is going to help me list a bunch of gear on eBay. I hope that between the 2 of us, we can do the photography and distract the Dog of Doom long enough to get the listing and packing done.

I should, at this point, make a confession.

I think this awkward little git of a dog might just be saving my life. It's hard to be depressed when you're busy, and although walking is bloody painful (particularly in cold wet weather) I think that the endorphins are having a positive effect as well. I haven't had to resort to the oramorph in over a week now.

I could stand to lose a few more pounds (Just as well, I don't think this is optional anyway).

I get woken up by about 49/50kg of unconditional love every morning. I've tried to be angry about this, but it's damn near impossible. For all of his size, he manages to do a fantastic impression of a SMALL cute pup.

I'm actually glad he's here (he's been here a fortnight now). He fretted for a while after arriving, and lost quite a bit of weight - his growth rate is now up to 150 to 200g a day, and his size growth has resumed it's normal "Dude- did he GROW again?" rate.

Eh. For all he's screwing with pretty much any plans I have to get anything done, he's actually a pretty big part of my life now.

Another positive - if my weight loss keeps going at this rate, I'm gonna be beach body ready next summer for the first time in a long time. This dog is close to being the ultimate wingman - I've never been approached by so many women since I was a shredded gym-rat. This also was a long time ago...

Thankfully he's a gregarious little sod, and will take a fuss off pretty much anyone - I'm sure I can make use of this somehow :)

He's bought structure to my life (even if it is devoted to HIM). I get up at the same time every day, I exercise regularly, I eat regularly too.

I suppose I could safely admit to liking him a bit, I just hope I can keep improving his behaviour. We shall see. I bought 2 pet suppressors, I'm quietly hopeful. For all the hassle, if he were to go now, there would be a dog-shaped void in my life.
 
All this behaviour is quite normal however you are not helping matters.
When I was rehoming greyhounds, remember these were adult dogs, with pretty entrenched ideas so "old dogs, new tricks" comes to mind but we got there in the end.

Your dog trainer will give you some pointers but what I would say 90% of dog training is training the human and not the dog.

I always used to recommend "The Dog Listener" by Jan Ferral, it'll give you a fair idea of what is going on between his not so little ears.

As to the aversion therapy we always used to use an empty coke can with 30 x1p pieces or pebbles and a swift shake and "NO"

The "Mary had a little lamb" syndrome is quite natural, you dog sees you as pack leader and quite naturally wants to be with his pack 24/7.

Btw attention must be given on your terms and not his, so no petting on demand.

Check out http://www.hantsgreyrescue.co.uk/adopt_a_greyhound.html

Last but not least in the past I did a lot of work with Roger Mugford, the TV Vet and behaviourist, who has his own company which specialises in all things pet and they are great and the site has a mega amount of info and quite happy to have a chat.

https://www.companyofanimals.co.uk
 
All this behaviour is quite normal however you are not helping matters.
When I was rehoming greyhounds, remember these were adult dogs, with pretty entrenched ideas so "old dogs, new tricks" comes to mind but we got there in the end.

Your dog trainer will give you some pointers but what I would say 90% of dog training is training the human and not the dog.

I always used to recommend "The Dog Listener" by Jan Ferral, it'll give you a fair idea of what is going on between his not so little ears.

As to the aversion therapy we always used to use an empty coke can with 30 x1p pieces or pebbles and a swift shake and "NO"

The "Mary had a little lamb" syndrome is quite natural, you dog sees you as pack leader and quite naturally wants to be with his pack 24/7.

Btw attention must be given on your terms and not his, so no petting on demand.

Check out http://www.hantsgreyrescue.co.uk/adopt_a_greyhound.html

Last but not least in the past I did a lot of work with Roger Mugford, the TV Vet and behaviourist, who has his own company which specialises in all things pet and they are great and the site has a mega amount of info and quite happy to have a chat.

https://www.companyofanimals.co.uk

Yes, I totally agree. Dog owners need correction more than the dogs, usually. The dog trainer I use is pretty balanced in his approach - before we started doing any training, we went through a classroom session explaining what was needed and why. We got trained before the dog did, and I know that this will continue - it's a cornerstone of his philosophy. He's also available via email and phone. So far, following his recommendations has led to a massive, progressive improvement in Chubbly's behaviour.

I am, however, keen to learn from any source I can. I can thoroughly recommend "A Dog's Mind" by Ben Fogle, and will pick up a copy of Jan Ferral's book - thank you for the recommendation.

It's a good point about the fuss on demand - I shall be a little more draconian on occasion, and tell him to bugger off and lie down. For the most part, he's a welcome distraction from thinking inward, particularly when I'm in "poor f***ing me" mode, which with the cold wet weather is happening quite a bit right now. He picks up when I'm a bit ouchy, and is good at helping me get past it.
 
My 2p, don’t pander to his corned beef habit, if a dog is hungry it will eat. If he hasn’t eaten his food within 10 minutes make a show of putting it back in the bag. You might have 3 or 4 days of him turning his nose up at unadulterated food, but eventually he’ll get the message, and of course hunger will win, every time.

I had to go through this crap when we got our Setter from her breeder who, get this, gave us a detailed menu for breakfast, dinner and supper. Ruby was extremely put out when she got put onto plain, but high quality, puppy food.

Otherwise it seems he’s training you extremely well, you should make an excellent beta.
 
Iirc, Ruby’s breakfast was porridge with steamed salmon, lunch/dinner was chicken, rice and carrots, and I can’t remember what supper was.

We took her to the vets for a check up the day after we got her and showed the vet the menu. She actually said “Oh, ffs, bloody breeders, forget all that crap now, it’s all very nice but you’ll be cooking that stuff for the next 15 years if you don’t sort it out right now...”

We somehow managed to get an enormous supply of Eukanuba puppy food for free (I think we got all our family and friends to register fictitious dogs with them for free puppy starter packs, which were actually quite big boxes...).

When we plonked Rubys first bowl of it in front of her, she looked at it, had a sniff, then looked at us as if to say, “WTF is this shite? I need to speak to the chef, right now...”
 
Iirc, Ruby’s breakfast was porridge with steamed salmon, lunch/dinner was chicken, rice and carrots, and I can’t remember what supper was.

We took her to the vets for a check up the day after we got her and showed the vet the menu. She actually said “Oh, ffs, bloody breeders, forget all that crap now, it’s all very nice but you’ll be cooking that stuff for the next 15 years if you don’t sort it out right now...”

We somehow managed to get an enormous supply of Eukanuba puppy food for free (I think we got all our family and friends to register fictitious dogs with them for free puppy starter packs, which were actually quite big boxes...).

When we plonked Rubys first bowl of it in front of her, she looked at it, had a sniff, then looked at us as if to say, “WTF is this shite? I need to speak to the chef, right now...”

He's got a switchover coming in a while, I shall starve the little bleeder until he gives in and eats the new stuff.

Incidentally, get your relatives onto tails.com - free dog food for a fortnight.
 
Once you get him on a complete food that:
1, He likes
2, You don't end up with loose stools or indescribable farts.
Then 3, Don't ever change.

The only time you'll ever need to change is if he has a real dose of the trots, then starve him for 12-24 hours and give him either boiled fish or chicken with rice for a day or so.

BTW some of the processed treats i.e Reward sticks etc especially with greyhounds can lead to room clearing smells.
 
Once you get him on a complete food that:
1, He likes
2, You don't end up with loose stools or indescribable farts.
Then 3, Don't ever change.

The only time you'll ever need to change is if he has a real dose of the trots, then starve him for 12-24 hours and give him either boiled fish or chicken with rice for a day or so.

BTW some of the processed treats i.e Reward sticks etc especially with greyhounds can lead to room clearing smells.

He definitely prefers Harrington's puppy food to Eukanuba (as I found out when my Eukanuba order was delayed, and I had to buy some stopgap food from pets @ home), but it's not quite as irresistable to him as I'd like... Ex has a good sense of smell (I have practically none) and thankfully his arse isn't gasseously productive, it seems :)
 
The Dogs Trust, at one time, used to swear by crappy Chappie. I couldn't stand the smell of it but the dogs loved it.
 
The Dogs Trust, at one time, used to swear by crappy Chappie. I couldn't stand the smell of it but the dogs loved it.

I suspect they swear by whatever they get sponsored by, the last time I went to their Liverpool centre it was Pedigree that seemed to be everywhere.

Ruby did have a bit of a sensitive gut and after a lot of experimentation we finally found this stuff for Ruby:

https://www.allaboutdogfood.co.uk/dog-food-reviews/1336/guru-surf-and-turf
https://www.allaboutdogfood.co.uk/dog-food-reviews/1336/guru-surf-and-turf
It certainty firmed up her poos and reduced her flatulence. She does occasionally raid the litter tray though and the miasma that results is quite astonishingly potent...
 


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