1971 - the miracle year for music
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gordon
self-righteous, but never right
but 50 is the new 65, when it comes to (un)employment.
http://www.alternet.org/economy/age-discrimination-workplace
for someone (me) who became musically of age in the 60/70's, new soul or r&b releases come across as rehashing the past, but i guess you could say that about a lot of new music.
my favorites of the year are mix of young and old.
young(ish):
whitney - light upon the lake
white lung - paradise
moon hooch - red planet
parquet courts - human performance
old:
lambchop - flotus
band of horses - why are you ok
dinosaur jr - give a glimpse of what yer not
http://www.alternet.org/economy/age-discrimination-workplace
for someone (me) who became musically of age in the 60/70's, new soul or r&b releases come across as rehashing the past, but i guess you could say that about a lot of new music.
my favorites of the year are mix of young and old.
young(ish):
whitney - light upon the lake
white lung - paradise
moon hooch - red planet
parquet courts - human performance
old:
lambchop - flotus
band of horses - why are you ok
dinosaur jr - give a glimpse of what yer not
DonQuixote99
pfm Member
The question we are wrestling with, in the end, is 'what makes music good?' Being 'like' other music we like is often a miss, and begs the question.
Just heard some new music that was rather reminiscent of Electric Light Orchestra. Some ELO stuff is among my favorite. The new was for me an odd combination of gratifying and unsatisfying. Most hearers, of course, won't be familiar with ELO, so their reaction will be different....
Just heard some new music that was rather reminiscent of Electric Light Orchestra. Some ELO stuff is among my favorite. The new was for me an odd combination of gratifying and unsatisfying. Most hearers, of course, won't be familiar with ELO, so their reaction will be different....
gassor
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It's more than just being "good" music. What people are often trying to identify in end of year lists are the influential albums - the ones that have an impact on the way music is going, as well at the ones which have impressive vocals or arrangements or songwriting skills or musicianship etc in evidence. That's why the Beatles, Bowie etc albums are important, they flattened the guideposts directing pop music at the time and opened it right up to all sorts of influences.
Take the Memphis Sessions by Elvis, people could easily overlook it's importance in the wider scheme, but it is arguably one of the most important in pop history because it shows the melding of blues and country in a way not heard before and one that foreshadowed all the rock 'n' roll that was yet to come.
Bob Marley was another example, as was Iggy Pop and the Beach Boys and Public Enemy: you may or may not think they produced "good" music, but you can't deny their influence they had.
Sloop John B
And any old music will do…
With a €50 gift voucher this Christmas I bought 3 ACE Jon Savage curated compilations, 1966, 67 and 68.
Jon Savages book was about 1966 “the year the decade exploded”. The CDs are based on singles rather than albums, mainly ones he heard on Radio Caroline. Very interesting albums but being born in 1965 my knowledge of the era is purely retrospective, as 1971 is, but somehow it seems less so to me.
I’ve always felt that the turn of the decade was a game changer with the Beatles no longer being on the scene so it’s interesting to hear mention of the 63-73 decade. I can relate to this as my high point for music would be the 77-81 era. (Do the 80s mean the Police, Duran Duran or Pixies?)
No great point to my post, I was just searching PFM for some comments on the Savage book and came upon this thread as I (mistakenly) thought the 1971 book was also a Savage book.
I’d be very interested in people’s top 10 singles from 66, 67 and 68 from people who were buying (or listening) back then. It’s hard to know how much licensing is effecting the choice of songs on these CDs.
.sjb
Jon Savages book was about 1966 “the year the decade exploded”. The CDs are based on singles rather than albums, mainly ones he heard on Radio Caroline. Very interesting albums but being born in 1965 my knowledge of the era is purely retrospective, as 1971 is, but somehow it seems less so to me.
I’ve always felt that the turn of the decade was a game changer with the Beatles no longer being on the scene so it’s interesting to hear mention of the 63-73 decade. I can relate to this as my high point for music would be the 77-81 era. (Do the 80s mean the Police, Duran Duran or Pixies?)
No great point to my post, I was just searching PFM for some comments on the Savage book and came upon this thread as I (mistakenly) thought the 1971 book was also a Savage book.
I’d be very interested in people’s top 10 singles from 66, 67 and 68 from people who were buying (or listening) back then. It’s hard to know how much licensing is effecting the choice of songs on these CDs.
.sjb
madmike
I feel much better now, I really do...
If licensing affects the choice of songs in compilation cds which in turn affects how we choose from a curated collection, then analogous to that would be how popular songs were promoted via the chart system in 1966,67 and 68.
What I remember from those times was what I heard on the radio so my field of options was necessarily limited.
I was after all only 9, 10 and 11 respectively!
When I could exercise choice it was mostly influenced by what records my friends had. One I recall bought from a catalogue or from ads in MM and NME and the other had parents who travelled a lot and just bought stuff they thought their son would like. He got Split Enz records and a drum kit!
I couldn't list 10 for each year, memory being what it is...
1966...They're coming to take me away, Bend It, Winchester Cathedral, Pretty Flamingo
1967...I'm a Believer, Hole In My Shoe (showing early signs of some musical taste here), Zabadak, San Francisco
1968...Those were the days, Hey Jude, Lily the pink, Cinderalla Rockefella, Fire (my first LP Crazy World of...)
Age is a big factor. If the years were 1972, 1973 and 1974 my answer would be sooooooo different!
What I remember from those times was what I heard on the radio so my field of options was necessarily limited.
I was after all only 9, 10 and 11 respectively!
When I could exercise choice it was mostly influenced by what records my friends had. One I recall bought from a catalogue or from ads in MM and NME and the other had parents who travelled a lot and just bought stuff they thought their son would like. He got Split Enz records and a drum kit!
I couldn't list 10 for each year, memory being what it is...
1966...They're coming to take me away, Bend It, Winchester Cathedral, Pretty Flamingo
1967...I'm a Believer, Hole In My Shoe (showing early signs of some musical taste here), Zabadak, San Francisco
1968...Those were the days, Hey Jude, Lily the pink, Cinderalla Rockefella, Fire (my first LP Crazy World of...)
Age is a big factor. If the years were 1972, 1973 and 1974 my answer would be sooooooo different!
I.D.C.
pfm Member
I'm impressed with your knowledge of music Tony not just this thread. Your on a whole diffrent level to me I consider myself a music enthusiast. Bumping into you over a pint would be a joy.
The book is very good, I think he writes very well on music. 1971 was the year of my birth so it does resonate with me. As you get older I think it becomes more difficult to keep up with modern music, it all starts to sound like stuff you've already heard. I find the odd artist breaks through for me (John Grant, Field Music, Michael Kiwanuka are among a few that spring to mind) but there's nothing wrong with this.
Marchbanks
Hat and Beard member
The year I went to my first rock concerts. I can remember one, two and three in order...
ELP
King Crimson
Van der Graaf Generator (supported by Genesis.)
Total cost of tickets £2.55
Here’s a thread about some great photos of rock stars with their parents that I found while searching for the Hepworth book.
ELP
King Crimson
Van der Graaf Generator (supported by Genesis.)
Total cost of tickets £2.55
Here’s a thread about some great photos of rock stars with their parents that I found while searching for the Hepworth book.
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Stunsworth
pfm Member
As was Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep by Middle of the Road, Knock Three Times by Dawn and Ernie by Benny Hill.
Stunsworth
pfm Member
At the time (I was 15 or so) most of the people I knew saw them as a joke and didn't take them seriously. Later they'd have been filed with Sweet and the Glitter band as "Glam Rock shite" as we listened to 'real music' like Deep Purple and Black Sabbath.
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"What' Going On". M. Gaye 1971 A true landmark LP, more than ever given our ecology focus today
"There's a riot going On". Sly and family Stone
"Maggot Brain'. funkadelic
All awesome still today.
More obvious:
"Tapestry"
"Sticky Fingers"
"American Pie"
"Bridge over trouble Water'
"Imagin"
"There's a riot going On". Sly and family Stone
"Maggot Brain'. funkadelic
All awesome still today.
More obvious:
"Tapestry"
"Sticky Fingers"
"American Pie"
"Bridge over trouble Water'
"Imagin"
Stunsworth
pfm Member
Yes, but at the time we didn't know that and they were seen as being a joke - you have to remember teenagers not only have strong opinions, but they know _everything_.
crimsondonkey
pfm Member
Born in '71 and these are three of my favourite albums.