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“I’m looking to get back what I paid”.

Discussion in 'audio' started by narabdela, Nov 28, 2019.

  1. cjarchez

    cjarchez pfm Member

    I always associated the statement as acknowledging the item was sold recently to the now seller, in a public place, such as the same forum that is easily searchable.
    Therefore, defusing the very likely reposts of "but you paid that 3 months go..." .

    A case of....Yes I know but I've barely used it, it's in the same condition as it was then plus the price was/is quite fair.
     
  2. kennyh

    kennyh pfm Member

    "I'm only looking to get back what I paid" = "I dropped a bollock with this"
     
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  3. Mike Reed

    Mike Reed pfm Member

    Scratching my head on that one; where's the connection (Turkey? surely not)?
     
  4. kensalriser

    kensalriser pfm Member

    Once I've decided I no longer need something I want it gone and I'll take the best the market offers. The price I bought it at is irrelevant. The only things that might not apply to are esoteric, rare and valuable or collectible items for which you might have to wait to find the right buyer. Most hi-fi stuff doesn't fit any of those categories and in the used market is somewhat interchangeable, ie unless you're really fixated on a specific component, you can choose from a broadly similar range of speakers, amps etc.

    All that said, there's nowt so queer as folk! I can understand private owners being a bit irrational, but I've come across so many dealers (not talking hi-fi particularly) who don't seem to understand the basic business logic of turning over your capital as frequently as possible.
     
  5. Mike Reed

    Mike Reed pfm Member

    Not a good idea to ask for for testimonials then.
     
  6. MikeMA

    MikeMA pfm Member

    What about the haspirated haitch then?

    Though this doesn't show up in writing, so write off toppic ;)
     
  7. Martyn Miles

    Martyn Miles pfm Member

    What indeed.

    Off toppic ? Must be a new chocolate bar.
     
  8. Michael J

    Michael J pfm Member

    More likely to be an old one.
     
  9. Mike Reed

    Mike Reed pfm Member

    Yes, a language, and especially OUR language evolves, but in nearly all circumstances, with vocabulary, not grammar. Example (McDoanald's) 'I'm loving it' has really become part of normal English now, but grammatically, it's very wrong. 'Love', 'like', 'hate' etc are STATIVE verbs (i.e. they're a state of mind) and cannot, grammatically, be used in the continuous. Personally, I don't have a problem with this 'activation' of stative verbs, but still, it ain't English as she's formulated.

    Generally, one can tell a dyslexic faux pas and this wouldn't portray itself in incorrect homophones (e.g. here, hear, there, their, your, you're; Loose/lose isn't even a homophone, so no excuses there !)

    So many scribes and speakers start a sentence with a conjunction now (so, and, but etc.) Conjunction = joining word; therefore cannot, grammatically, start a sentence. Spelling errors I can understand, simply because of the multilingual origins of English. I don't have sympathies for 'error correction'. If you proof-read what you are about to publish, you'd see most errors. Besides, American correction/underlining assistance is usually just confusing, as there are many spelling differences between the two linguistic types.
     
  10. Mike Reed

    Mike Reed pfm Member

    Why the struggle? Apostrophe use is one of the simplest grammatical functions and it baffles me why/how people get this wrong.

    Apostrophe of omission (stick one in if you've left letters out ('I would've gone out....)
    Apostrophe of possession (it belongs to someone/thing) (The children's toys; his wife's shopping)

    The ONLY exception to this rule, for obvious reasons, is that IT'S does not belong; it's omission only, so ITS is belonging to it. You can't have both uses with one apostrophe !

    B.t.w., did you know that the inventor of predictive text has recently died? His funfair will be hello on Sundial. (Think about it !!!!!!!)
     
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  11. Bob McC

    Bob McC Living the life of Riley

    There is nothing wrong with starting a sentence with And or But.
    http://www.thewriter.com/what-we-th...-okay-to-start-a-sentence-with-a-conjunction/
     
  12. Martyn Miles

    Martyn Miles pfm Member

    Well, Mike, it seems I have a kindred spirit on this Forum.
    I’ve been accused of belonging to the ‘Grammar Police’ by some on PFM.
    When at Secondary School, we had a rather frightening English Master.
    Now I look back, I realise he was dedicated to his subject and we boys ‘were going to learn things properly ?’
    Thank you John Garrity, yes I did learn properly from you...
     
  13. Martyn Miles

    Martyn Miles pfm Member

  14. Mike Reed

    Mike Reed pfm Member

    Thanks for that, Bob; very interesting. Those passages are all about (modern) usage but none questions why it's called a conjunction. The use of these in this way is so widespread nowadays as to be accepted sentence structure, I guess. It is, though, a relatively modern aberration (i.m.o.).
     
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2019
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  15. Mike Reed

    Mike Reed pfm Member

    I'll forever be in debt to my English teacher at school when he explained the meaning of 'multitude'. It means a lot to me.
     
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  16. Martyn Miles

    Martyn Miles pfm Member

    Yes, some of us have much to thank our Teachers.
    Incidentally, my Wife is one.
     
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  17. Mike Reed

    Mike Reed pfm Member

    Quite a common question I come across, " Ah, you were an English teacher". "Yes", I reply, "but I was also a teacher of English" Only applies to native language (+ literature?) teachers.

    My wife's a former (very bad) student (drives me up the wall with her lack of linguistic prowess). I can't speak Mandarin and Taiwanese, though, and understand computing! :(
     
  18. Michael J

    Michael J pfm Member

    From the King James Bible, 1611: Genesis, Chapter 1.

    In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
    2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
    3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
    4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

    Etc.
     
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  19. Marky-Mark

    Marky-Mark pfm Member

    I think you have 'struggle' the wrong way around - I'm acknowledging that half the internet is grammatically stumped by apostrophes.
     
  20. Marky-Mark

    Marky-Mark pfm Member

    Two misspellings.
     

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