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Voter turnout was 84% in 1950 (Clement Attlee re-elected) but has gradually declined. The lowest turnout was 59% in 2001 (Blair re-elected).

I agree to some extent with @Tony L - many people feel neither main party in England represents them, especially if they're part of the 48% who didn't vote for Brexit.

I always vote and tend to vote for the Green candidate in the hope that they at least won't lose their deposit!

....wasn't this a beer thread? How did we get onto politics?

Always descends to that level! Back on track, I’m looking at this glorious weather thinking a BBQ and a few cold beers would be nice later on, but can’t end up drinking every night!
 
The pub I frequent most is a very highly regarded craft ale place. It doesn't sell Stella, Kronenbourg, Grolsch, or any of the 'wife-beater' brews. It sells lager, like Vedett or Bitburger, and the draught ales range from £3.30 to around a tenner a pint and the people who go there do so for the quality and variety of beers available, and are content to pay the going rate for them. The lager-drinking brigade stays away in its droves, which makes it a lovely place to be.
 
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my local (5 mins walk away)is £4.90 for a pint of San Mig. I think Stella is a tad cheaper. On cask they only have AK, but it is £3.90. The place is tatty, run down and can get rough but our friends are there. An amazing community pub.

Our neighbours prefer the sticky and noisy spoons, it is ok, the beer is good and cheap. Last I heard was Tesco Dave, was attempting a 20 pint afternoon
 
The pub I frequent most is a very highly regarded craft ale place. It doesn't sell Stella, Kronenbourg, Grolsch, or any of the 'wife-beater' brews. It sells lager, like Vedett or Bitburger, and the draught ales range from £3.30 to around a tenner a pint and the people who go there do so for the quality and variety of beers available, and are content to pay the going rate for them. The lager-drinking brigade stays away in its droves, which makes it a lovely place to be.

....and I thought better of you than that.... That's precisely the attitude I have a big problem with. "It's really expensive but I'm filthy rich so I couldn't give a toss how much it costs 'cos it means I don't have to mix with the plebs who can't afford it"... and I'll hazard a guess you read the Grauniad:rolleyes:

I guess the business model is to buy in beer for say £2.50 a pint and sell it for £10 a pint in the knowledge that there are enough people who are so wealthy that they'll happily pay £10 for a pint in the same way they'll pay £60K for a car.. status symbol, willy extension, showing the Jones's how it's done etc... (being in with the craft ale in set)... Real-ale-socialists now as well as sham-pain ones eh...

It used to be that really premium ales of maybe 6-7%, maybe even from Belgium etc in rare cases, would be say £3.70 whilst "standard real ales" in the same pub were say £2.70. The "going rate" now is whatever the green wellies and Barbour jacket set are prepared to pay for them... which if they can afford the Range Rover Vogue bad taste-o-matic machine they arrived in is a lot! Meanwhile for those on a normal income it's "oh if you go 300 yards up the street and turn left there's a weatherspoons for your sort.... don't turn right 'cos all the pubs down that street have closed down 'cos they couldn't attract the posh set and couldn't compete on price with 'spoons".

All thatchers fault of course. Forcing the breweries to close many tied houses and allowing the pub-co's to buy them up and make a killing was the beginning of the end.
 
Sod it, I’m weak. Enjoying a Proper Job whilst BBQ’ing.
Cheers! Don’t enjoy yourself too much though, you might turn into another confused, dissolute old fool.

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Beer and me (long story short).

I have been a drinker for 50 years, drinking pretty much everyday and often twice a day. For the first 6 years I drank exclusively cider, either Bulmers (who used to brew some very fine ciders) and Westons who still do.

In 1976 I had an epiphany. Whilst on holiday in Devon my friends and I went to the Ship at Porlock where I was persuaded to try a Draught Bass. It was a revelation and I drank exclusively real ale (as it became known) ever since.

For 12 years I brewed my own beer from grain in the traditional way which with no false modesty was as good as any commercial brew and better than most.

I have tried a fair few craft beers and have not liked a single one. They are so far removed from what I consider to be beer I am surprised they do not fall foul of the Trades Description Act: citrussy, mouth imploding, American hops, ridiculous hop rates, fruit and God knows what other adjuncts in a liquid that is invariably thick and murky and that looks, smells and tastes like homebrew gone very badly wrong.

The price, like most things, is what the market will bear. I would not drink it if it were free.

YMMV.
 
....and I thought better of you than that.... That's precisely the attitude I have a big problem with. "It's really expensive but I'm filthy rich so I couldn't give a toss how much it costs 'cos it means I don't have to mix with the plebs who can't afford it"... and I'll hazard a guess you read the Grauniad:rolleyes:.
Sorry to disappoint, Jez. Mind you, you have it wrong and your prejudices are showing. The clientele in the pub in question is as varied as any I know, and mostly very ordinary in terms of spending power, many pensioners on modest income. They have decided, as have we, that drinking less, but drinking better, is preferable. And the louts who spoil pubs with their boorish behaviour are often the loadsamoney types with the disposable income. They drink to get pissed, noisily and selfishly. They aren’t interested in the quality, they’d rather drink tasteless lager. Well they can do that elsewhere and they do. No Friday and Saturday night aggro in this pub.
 
At least you have standards there. In Wellington NZ they call 425ml a pint. Last one I had was $14 (£7.20) which works out at £9.62 for a pint.

We have brim pint glasses in the UK.

Go to Albert's Schloss in Birmingham or Manchester and order a 'pint' of Pilsner Urquell from the tank. It'll cost you £5.80 and if it is served with an authentic amount of foam you'll be lucky to get 400 ml.

It is worth noting that the half-litre branded glasses for use on the continent are a lot bigger even though half a litre is less than a pint.
 
More than once I've ordered a beer in Netherlands and the barman has said "oh you're English" and filled it up to the top with no head. Ha!

If the glass is lined with the appropriate volume there is no need to fill it.

Brim glasses exist to rip British punters off, fill the drip tray or make the carpet sticky.
 
I can't remember ever seeing lined glasses in a pub. Beer festivals, yes, but never in a pub.*



*My memory may not be 100% reliable.
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loads around here.

I can think of three pubs within walking distance that use them. Further afield I think 4 in the next town use them. Our cider pub uses them as they keep the cider in the cellar and need to avoid spilling the pint as they climb the stairs with a full pint
 


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