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£3000 to spend on TT, what would you do?

Discussion in 'audio' started by TonyScarlett, Dec 4, 2018.

  1. linnfomaniac83

    linnfomaniac83 I bet you can’t wheelie a unicycle!

    I can second the recommendation for Sound Cinergy. Clive is a lovely bloke, extremely knowledgable about turntables and won’t make you feel pressured to buy anything.
    BLACKMASS likes this.
  2. gerlando

    gerlando Prog Rocker

    Technics SP10;
    Garrard 401/301;
    Goldring Lenco GL75;
    Oracle Delphi;
    Pink Triangle PT Anniversary;
    Well Tempered Amadeus.
  3. divedeepdog

    divedeepdog pfm Member

    Funny you mention Oracle Delphi, I took mine to a bakeoff on Saturday and it played all day, much enjoyment all round.
    If your in the Midlands, it is on ebay and I'm open to offers. It's the best belt drive TT I've had but I just prefer my Garrard's. If your curious about Garrard's your welcome to hear mine.
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  4. andy k

    andy k pfm Member

    I would agree going 2nd hand
    You could get a nice Roksan TMS2 reference deck
  5. Nagraboy

    Nagraboy pfm Member

    I’d look at the new Rega Planar 8.
  6. TonyScarlett

    TonyScarlett pfm Member

    Thanks for all the input. I agree the SME deck at 2nd hand HiFi looks tempting but I would need to spend another £2000-£2500 on cart & phono stage to do it justice which would double my £3000 budget! I haven't completely ruled out 2nd hand, there are several Garrard 401s on EBay at the moment, would need to do a lot more research before I felt confident about taking the plunge though.
  7. Arkless Electronics

    Arkless Electronics Trade: Amp design and repairs.

    I wouldn't touch a Garrard with a bargepole personally... or any idler drive deck for that matter. Rumble in the jungle! Belt drive every time.
  8. koi

    koi pfm Member

    Nottingham Analogue hyperspace

    Job done
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  9. MotelBlues

    MotelBlues pfm Member

    Another vote for at least trying to listen to a Garrard or other well-fettled vintage idler. I have not missed my Orbe since part-exchanging it for a cartridge for my 301.
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  10. Jason P

    Jason P pfm Member

    Martian Sunrise's modded SL1210 in the classifieds, with a better phono stage and about a grand's worth of vinyl. Fit and forget.
  11. ducatiman

    ducatiman pfm Member

    Very nice turntable
  12. tenpercenter

    tenpercenter Don't ya rile 'em.....

    2nd Hand LP12 with a spec something like:

    LP12/Pre-cirkus Black bearing/one piece sub-chassis (Kore/Mober/Akula etc)/serviced Lingo 1/ Funk FXR Arm / DV XX2 (ideally with a P75mk4 phono stage in PE mode)

    Musicality over hifi.


    A Pink Triangle Anniversary if you can find one
  13. Arkless Electronics

    Arkless Electronics Trade: Amp design and repairs.

    A sorted Xerxes would do the job and leave plenty of dosh for phono stage and better cart...
  14. foxwelljsly

    foxwelljsly Hawkwind and Fire

    The Acoustic Signature Challenger should probably be on your shortlist. I bought one without arm or cart a few years ago new for £1300, but I suspect the list price is a bit more now. The best deck I listened to under £2k at the time, although the differences were marginal between this and the similarly priced Gyrodeck and Notts Analogue. It looks fabulous and, speaking as a former user of suspended decks, is a doddle to set up and doesn't give a monkeys what you stand it on as long as it's reasonably stable and level.
  15. Swamp Thing

    Swamp Thing Remainiac Terrorist

    fiddly speed change - or I would have gone there
  16. oldius

    oldius Can pleasure be measured?

    You have some really nice vintage equipment there.

    It may fly in the face of what you are seeking but I would stick with the front end you have: the biggest improvements in your system will not come from that area. The Classic is a decent deck though Gerlando's recommendations are excellent ones.

    Personally, I would improve your rear end! Though the JR is a lovely speaker I would look to improve there, assuming that you wish to retain the Leak. Dependent on the size of your room, I would be looking to get rid of the subwoofer and install some larger speakers, of the period, and ones efficient enough to be driven by the Leak. Your phono stage is decent and the NCPSU does not give enough of an improvement compared to improving the stage altogether.

    Sorry to be a pain but I have owned most of the decks recommended and a Diablo with NCPSU!
  17. gerlando

    gerlando Prog Rocker

    Garrard and Lenco are much better than any belt drive ever heard.
    Never had any issue with rumble, especially with Lenco, which is deadly quiet.
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  18. Arkless Electronics

    Arkless Electronics Trade: Amp design and repairs.

    As they say, YMMV. I reckon a good belt drive is better than any idler drive. I've yet to hear a completely rumble free idler drive and I wouldn't expect them to be good in this respect.
  19. Arkless Electronics

    Arkless Electronics Trade: Amp design and repairs.

    I'd replace everything but the Khozmo passive pre personally! At a pinch I'd keep the JR149's and sub. Much here depends on how good a pair of JR149's they are!
    Stereo 20's good (I have one) but lacks the last degree of transparency and grip. I rarely use mine. Trichord Dino is thrashed by the budget phono stage I make at less than half the price... but with £3k to spend I'd be looking at spending at least £1K on the phono stage.
    oldius likes this.
  20. TonyScarlett

    TonyScarlett pfm Member

    Thanks again for the input. Just to be clear, I will not be parting with the ST20 or JR149's, despite what the specs might suggest they are a match made in heaven, easily the best sounding amp/speaker combo I've ever owned. Besides I simply don't have the space for larger speakers. I agree the Classic is a decent deck but no matter how much money I throw at it I will still have to lift off the platter & fiddle with the belt on the pulley to change the speed (& if you don't lift the platter dead square the spindle & sub platter lift out with it!). Had thought about the Classic SB but not sure whether that would be a step up in sound quality being as I've already fitted the Hana cart to my current deck. Maybe the Classic SB & spend the rest on phono stage & even better cart? On the subject of phono stage I am a little surprised at the negativity towards the Dino, all the research I did before I bought it suggested it was a bit of a giant killer for the money. It was certainly a major step up from the Tisbury Domino that it replaced which itself is considered a giant killer at it's price point.

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