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£100 DAC beats Klimax Renew DS

Discussion in 'audio' started by gidders, Aug 11, 2018.

  1. sq225917

    sq225917 Bit of this, bit of that

    Yes, that's what it must be. Because I disagree with you the fault must lie with me. It's so obvious now you've highlighted it.
     
  2. radamel

    radamel Music Fiend

    No need to be sarcastic...

    I'm serious. Have you tried the comparison using another unit?
     
  3. Del monaco

    Del monaco Del Monaco

    Thanks. I’ll perhaps purchase one. They are under a £100 now so I can always resell it if it doesn’t do it for me.
     
    radamel likes this.
  4. Eyebroughty

    Eyebroughty JohnC

    Hi,

    Interesting post from the OP both on here and the Linn forum.

    I think if you have found something that to your ears is better than your Klimax DS then you should sell that and use your £100 DAC and be happy.

    After all you want MQA, you want a better control point, you prefer the sound and the control point to the Klimax DS system.

    Cheers

    John
     
  5. hali

    hali Member

    I have the Meridian 2, most £100-200 non-MQA DACs will walk all over it. Some bargains to be had on the second hand market.

    If you want to to buy it (say £50 inc shipping) I can pop it in a padded envelope and ship.
     
  6. garyi

    garyi leave blank

    My understanding is MQA are remastered albums not available in other formats, so you cannot really compare them.
     
  7. Del monaco

    Del monaco Del Monaco

    Could you name these other dacs for me please?
     
  8. hali

    hali Member

    Musical Fidelity comes to mind.
    SMSL has some really low cost options.
    Schiit Modi, only about £100
    iFi
     
  9. kenniGT

    kenniGT pfm Member

    Whenever I tried a laptop (dell xps 15/sony vaio 13) as a source it was degrading sound massively, flat, lack of dynamic . Even with conversion to DSD256 via Ayon CD35 dac it was far worst compared to normal CD. Tried Mytek brooklyn with MQA via laptop and it sounds worst than linn kds1 or ayon cd.
     
  10. Mr_Sukebe

    Mr_Sukebe pfm Member

    If you like MQA, you could use Roon to conduct software decoding, as I believe they added Linn DS support recently.
     
  11. gidders

    gidders hifi enthusiast, golfer & photographer

    Thanks for the links & explanation
     
  12. gidders

    gidders hifi enthusiast, golfer & photographer

    Thanks for this suggestion, also suggested by someone on the Linn forum. I've installed the trial version of Roon & playing Tidal masters through my DS from Roon definitely sounds better than my £100 DAC [​IMG]

    I'm still getting my head round Roon - it seems to make its own decisions about artwork & other meta data & I ignore the meta data in my files. I've discovered than I can go in an edit that on an album by album basis - is there a global setting to prefer the file data?

    The other thing compared to the Tidal app - I like using the track radio function to introduce me to new music asked on the selected seed track, where Roon seems to only play similar tracks from my library so I get nothing new [​IMG] - is there a way to force Roon to ignore my library?
     
  13. gidders

    gidders hifi enthusiast, golfer & photographer

    John - with the same source file be that 16/44.1 or 24/192 or anything in between the DS sounds significantly better, as you would expect. However, my frustration & the point I'm making is that, when Tidal offers hi res via MQA - decoding this with the Tidal desktop app & outputting through my £100 dac, sounds better than the 16/44.1 version through the DS
     
  14. jobseeker

    jobseeker pfm Member

    You'll get the best Roon answers on the Roon forum and help pages
     
  15. sq225917

    sq225917 Bit of this, bit of that

    Yes, sounds the same, tried the plus that sounds the same too.

    I run it with an lt3083 into four parallel lt3045 psu, that made a tiny difference.
     
  16. Eyebroughty

    Eyebroughty JohnC

    Hi,

    While that maybe true, I doubt very much that Linn will be introducing MQA into their DS range, so my point stands, either accept what the issue is or use whichever one you prefer, or both.

    Cheers

    John
     
  17. radamel

    radamel Music Fiend

    Ok. I guess that reinforces the idea that the way one listens to recorded music and what one values can be really disparate.
     
    pickwickpapers likes this.
  18. Salamander

    Salamander pfm Member

    Anyone wanting to try a cheap dac, look on ebay, there are many between £5 - 30 and add on a cheap Chinese lpsu £40 - 50, you can then decide if your expensive dac was worth the money.
     
  19. sq225917

    sq225917 Bit of this, bit of that

    Or that you've got magic ears...
     
  20. radamel

    radamel Music Fiend

    Or perhaps you have them? Who knows?o_O
     

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