Seeker_UK
Feelin' nearly faded as my jeans
Apart from the concept album,
Nope. That was Frank Sinatra. Discuss.
Apart from the concept album,
I get the impression Kraftwerk themselves fully understood Electric Cafe was poor hence the hugely delayed release and endless attempts to knock it into shape.
it is a huge shame that one is in print and the first three exponentially more interesting and significant Philips/Vertigo albums have been erased from history.
Reading recent rumours on the release if the first three (possibly four) albums, the tapes are basically b*ggered and beyond even baking.
t’s not terrible, but I view it as pretty pointless. I’ve no idea what it is for other than a way to resell the same albums yet again
Those three albums deserve to be heard, they are genuinely historically significant.
Opinions and tastes vary I guess. Its a lot better than not terrible and its certainly not pointless to me as I quite enjoy a lot of the material as live remix editions, whilst not as good as the studio albums, still have listening value to me at least. Then again I've always liked Human League's Unlimited Orchestra remix of Dare when others not so much.
Then again I've always liked Human League's Unlimited Orchestra remix of Dare when others not so much.
I’ve just stuck the UK 1st press vinyl on and it is magical. It is indescribably better in every way. It is also orders of magnitude more dynamic, punchy and alive occupying a vast wide soundstage. This really is a stunningly good record.
Then of course we have the German first pressings which to my ears are even better.
As an example the UK 1st press of TEE has an obvious dynamic swing through the title track building up to an almost scarily dynamic crescendo in Metal On Metal. It sounds amazing.
Agree to the extent that Conputer World comes off the worst in the 3D box, on record the dynamics are still Kraftwerk standard but very little can hold a candle to the original.
I think I’d have gone with Autobahn, but I’ve never liked The Mix and later versions of that one.
I'm ashamed to say I've hardly played it Tony.So, what are people’s favourites in the red box?
One thing I find so odd about the red box is how it actually strips stuff out, everything is made shorter, more concise, nothing is extended or developed. Computer World clocked in at just 27 minutes on the CD display IIRC. I’m sure the LP is a good ten minutes or so longer. That is a heck of a lot to strip out of an album that is so perfect. As such I’d say they were the exact opposite of say the Human League and Propaganda remix albums mentioned above which stretch and extend ideas. In some ways it makes the red box interesting in that it can be viewed as a decades-later distillation and reduction of ideas almost down into soundbites. I’m not sure anyone has done that before. Or wanted to. It is a very strange thing.
So, what are people’s favourites in the red box?
One thing I find so odd about the red box is how it actually strips stuff out, everything is made shorter, more concise, nothing is extended or developed. Computer World clocked in at just 27 minutes on the CD display IIRC. I’m sure the LP is a good ten minutes or so longer. That is a heck of a lot to strip out of an album that is so perfect. As such I’d say they were the exact opposite of say the Human League and Propaganda remix albums mentioned above which stretch and extend ideas. In some ways it makes the red box interesting in that it can be viewed as a decades-later distillation and reduction of ideas almost down into soundbites. I’m not sure anyone has done that before. Or wanted to. It is a very strange thing.