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Post-Trump: III (decline, further tantrums, legal proceedings, book deals etc)

And yes, we socialists of the blue north do enjoy Florida, especially in the winter since Miami is fairly liberal and warm. Not much else in the country is pleasant at this time of the year (aside from Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands). Current temperature in upstate NY: -12°C, and tonight's low of -23°C with a stiff wind making it feel much colder.

I recommend a spell in the sauna at a local gym, or a trip to SoCal or New Mexico if you must travel, and spend your tourist dollars outside of the red states, especially Florida. Economic boycotts have worked in the past (https://www.ethicalconsumer.org/ethicalcampaigns/boycotts/history-successful-boycotts) and they can work again.

There's no f*n way I will go on a Florida vacation while Florida is governed by far right fascists.
 
It is terrifying. This is unquestionably fascism and their targets are now very clearly identified. There is no defending it. It needs stopping by whatever means. There will come a point where ‘opposition’ becomes ‘resistance’. There can be no tolerance for this shit.

An appropriate warning from history from the Holocaust Memorial Day Trust. More here.

Trump fascists are Nazi fascists. They are the same thing.
Exact! I am passing this message along.
 
won’t this craziness make them more and more unelectable? I can’t imagine that most average Americans are OK with these types of policies? Or are most Americans easily led?

The central contradiction of GOP politics is that in order to win the nomination you need to appeal to the party membership / activists which requires this increasingly extreme right wing politics and endless culture war bullshit. But winning the nomination condemns you to losing the actual presidential election because this sort of thing is not that popular on a national level.

Hence the classic "pivot" between winning the nomination and the actual election and why Republicans have not been able to win nationally in recent times without some combination of cheating, suppression or manipulation.
 
His genocidal rant was pulled from his website

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The page is inaccessible here: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/0ab801d4-7664-472e-b636-1aed9e0855d8

But its been saved anyway on the Wayback Machine: https://web.archive.org/web/2023020...com/news/0ab801d4-7664-472e-b636-1aed9e0855d8
 
The right wing's fetish-level obsession with Trans issues, and their desire to trample Trans rights, is truly disturbing.

Like abortion I'm convinced it's mostly just a distraction from their horrific fiscal policies.
Impoverishing the 95% to enrich the 5% is not a wildly popular economic policy, so it has to be cloaked in a culture war.
 
The right wing's fetish-level obsession with Trans issues, and their desire to trample Trans rights, is truly disturbing.
It’s back to the 30’s. I’m waiting for the definition of and the consequent attack on degenerate art to begin. They already seem to want to make drag acts illegal.
 
..and when you read the argumentation it seems so far-fetched and ridiculous a lawsuit that it should never see the inside of a courtroom, yet one can only dread what's actually going to happen...
 
Yes, the implications are that, the way the US judicial system is stacked ATM, any old meritless case can succeed if there’s the political will for it, and no feeling that wiser heads will prevail at the higher courts. That’s the terrifying aspect. What comes next if this succeeds?
 
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Yes, the implications are that, the way the US judicial system is stacked ATM, any old merit less case can succeed if there’s the political will for it, and no feeling that wiser heads will prevail at the higher courts. That’s the terrifying aspect. What comes next if this succeeds?

It would lead to a thriving black market for morning after pills. Who knows, might even be a career path for weed dealers who’ve been put out of business through state-level legalization.

IMO, if there was such an idiotic ruling, and it was upheld in lower (GOP biased) federal courts, then the most likely outcome for the Supreme Court would be to, once again, punt it to the states.
 
Yes, the implications are that, the way the US judicial system is stacked ATM, any old meritless case can succeed if there’s the political will for it, and no feeling that wiser heads will prevail at the higher courts. That’s the terrifying aspect. What comes next if this succeeds?

Gilead.
 
IMO, if there was such an idiotic ruling, and it was upheld in lower (GOP biased) federal courts, then the most likely outcome for the Supreme Court would be to, once again, punt it to the states.

Obviously not a lawyer, but if you can get a case with so many seemingly obvious legal holes through the lower courts, only to have the US Supreme Court look at it and go "we'll let someone else decide this", then either there's something I genuinely haven't understood (definitely possible) - or the whole concept of the "Supreme Court" in the US seriously flawed? The last one is obviously also possible, but FFS that would be scary!
 
Trump has succeeded wildly at lowering the bar for public discourse and public behavior, as demonstrated by GOP congresscritters at last night's State of the Union address.

And the Governor of my state was allowed to give the official GOP "response" to Biden's speech. Her rant was obviously pre-prepared, since it addressed none of Biden's points and instead concentrated on typical GOP culture wars crapola. It was an embarrassment for the state and the country. And typical GOP gaslighting deflection, blaming it all on the Left.
 
The confrontational nature of US (and U.K.) politics, where Republicans actively block Democrat initiatives so policies can’t get enacted, is profoundly undemocratic. The Democrats were elected by the population to do what they said they’d do when campaigning. Blocking them from carrying it out is confounding the will of the people, as expressed in the election. Oppositions should oppose, but that’s supposed to be constructive criticism, devil’s advocate stuff, not scheming to undermine the party the people chose to rule.
 
The confrontational nature of US (and U.K.) politics, where Republicans actively block Democrat initiatives so policies can’t get enacted, is profoundly undemocratic. The Democrats were elected by the population to do what they said they’d do when campaigning. Blocking them from carrying it out is confounding the will of the people, as expressed in the election. Oppositions should oppose, but that’s supposed to be constructive criticism, devil’s advocate stuff, not scheming to undermine the party the people chose to rule.
I share your frustration with these obstructive tactics, but the Republicans unfortunately have more seats in the House than the Dems, making the Dems the opposition there. Same with governors: more Reps than Dems. The Senate is so finely balanced that it just takes a Manchin or two to neuter it. Short of more voters actually electing Democrats, it's a bit difficult to argue that the Reps are undermining the will of the people. The US is not a purely presidential regime.
 
I can't find the link now, but someone had some poll results which led to a conclusion that in a GOP Presidential primary race between Trump and DeSantis, DeSantis wins. But if it's Trump, DeSantis, and any other third candidate, Trump wins by splitting the anti-Trump vote.

My view - in a Trump vs DeSantis race, who cares? It's a narcissist who uses fascism as a tool, against an ideological fascist.
 


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