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Thanatophobia - Fear of death or dying

Fatmarley

"It appears my intelligence circuits have melted"
Every so often (roughly every 10 years) I convince myself I'm dying and even get symptoms (chest pains etc). The fear can be so bad that I can't sleep at night, and I've even had it so bad that I shake with fear and get dizzy spells.

Does anyone else suffer from this?
 
gosh never knew it was called that . must confess in all the covid crisis when so many reports of folks dying one did get pretty fearful . it can be extremely worrying
 
Chest pains and dizzy spells can also be common with panic attacks, which are much more common than you might think.
That said I think it's worth booking a non-urgent appointment with a GP for reassurance if nothing else (assuming you have not already done so).
I'm not advocating the worried well stampede to the Dr, but if your symptoms are only once per decade I would hope the NHS could handle that load.
 
If something exists there is usually enough people afraid of it to get a phobia named after it.
Every ten years? You are probably fortunate. Anxiety attacks are common. I’ve had five in my time and they are seriously uncomfortable but self-limiting.
 
Every so often (roughly every 10 years) I convince myself I'm dying and even get symptoms (chest pains etc). The fear can be so bad that I can't sleep at night, and I've even had it so bad that I shake with fear and get dizzy spells.

Does anyone else suffer from this?


I wouldnt worry about that taphophobia sounds much worse.
 
Sounds like this thing has a lot in common with plain old anxiety, though as a long term sufferer I am in no way intending to minimise its impact.
Anxiety is a very odd thing and I have no idea why different people develop phobias around such a wide variety of things.
Most of my anxiety is focused on health. Yet oddly...not on my well diagnosed heart conditions..which I just sort of accept. Instead my phobias are around infectious diseases...which of course have made the last couple of years huge fun. ...:( Little logic there. but then anxiety isn't logical. That's the point. In many ways it represents a failure of logic.
I would start by looking for online sources of help and info. Anxiety is very common and can be at least minimised through a proper understanding of self help and self talk techniques.
 
As Sean says, these may be hyperventilation-mediated panic attacks.

If we hold ourselves tense, which we often do when stressed or anxious, this can make it difficult to move air in and out of our lungs via the usual method, of using the diaphragm and instead, we use the intercostal muscles in the rib cage to the same effect. (Thorassic breathing)

This has several effects. We are so used to feeling the diaphragm moving, that when it isn't, we can think we're not breathing, which although is untrue, is alarming if one believes it.

If we think we're not breathing, we can 'over compensate' by thorassically breathing even harder. This has several effects. We're not used to breathing like this and the muscles can soon become tired and sore, the chest pain can be misinterpreted as a heart attack. You can actually shift quite a lot of air this way and if you're simpli lying in bed, then you'll be shifting too much air for the activity your engaged in. This can extract more CO2 from your body (normally dissolved as carbonic acid) than is optimum. This is completely benign and reversible, but it temporarily raises the pH of your internal chemical environment. This can feel weird, hot , dizzy, pins and needles, hearing can go a bit, etc. If you feel further alarmed by this, then adrenalin gets released, leading to increased heart rate, etc.

The whole CO2 thing is the reason why people are sometimes advised to breath into a paper bag; you'll soon have a bag full of moist CO 2 rich air, and breathing this quickly restores the pH, etc. But you don't need to do this, you can just cup your hands over your mouth or better still. Just stop hyperventilating.

We normally train people to. manage this by teaching them to deliberately hyperventilate, and swith back and forth between this and slow, shallow diaphragmatic breathing. (Not deep breaths).

This helps to demystify the process and makes it much easier to spot hyperventilation early on, rather than when the uncomfortable sensations develop.

We also encourage people to really push hyperventilation to it's limits, so they can demonstrate to themselves that with some very rare exceptions, you can't harm yourself this way. Discovering this makes the whole process a lot less scary.

I often use the anaolgy that if you knew nothing about astronomy, a solar eclipse would be truly terrifying, the sun god is dying, it's the end of all life, etc. But just some rudimentary knowledge turns it into a completely different experience.

Anyone struggling with these symptoms is advised to approach their GP; they will first want to rule out anything nasty, with a view to referral to a Clin Psych or appropriately trained CBT therapist, as it's much better to tackle this with a good teacher.
 
Yes. About every two or three days. I spend a lot of time wondering what new ache / pain is the beginning of the thing that's going to finish me off. Then I get this horrible sick feeling realizing I'm going to die. Then it goes. Until then next time...

Probably not healthy for a 50-something.
 
I used to get panic attacks when I was in my teens, specifically on the underground train between Birkenhead and Liverpool, where I sometimes became very aware of the possibility of the tunnel collapsing and me being buried alive. Usually I managed to get to Liverpool, but a couple of times I had to cut the journey short because I felt unable to breathe. I made some excuse to my parents about ‘not feeling well’.

My younger daughter has had similar experiences, but has developed strategies to cope with the attacks.
 
Interesting thread.

I occasionally convince myself I'm ill, usually late at night or in the small hours of the morning, and I develop "symptoms". Last time I googled them I convinced myself I had heart failure, failing kidneys, Iiver failure and diabetes. The only thing that stopped me contacting my GP surgery the next morning was the fact they no longer answer the phone and their on line Patient Access system doesn't work. Then I felt fine, which was just as well.
 
I don’t get panic attacks as described, but I am experiencing more frequent periods of feeling down. Usually only lasts a few hours, but I hate the feeling!

Sometimes it is related to thoughts of mortality (more so about family and friends than myself). But more often my trigger is something else (e.g., the never-ending pandemic, racism, misogyny, right wing idiots, and so on).

I hate feeling pessimistic, and I do not want to become just another angry old man who can only see what’s ugly and wrong in the world.

It has gotten to the point where I no can longer ingest a steady, daily diet of political news and opinion. But I know how important it is to remain informed, so I am trying to figure out how to do so without becoming obsessed and upset. Will keep working on it, but no clue if I’ll ever be successful.
 
It has gotten to the point where I no can longer ingest a steady, daily diet of political news and opinion. But I know how important it is to remain informed, so I am trying to figure out how to do so without becoming obsessed and upset. Will keep working on it, but no clue if I’ll ever be successful.

I've started listening to BBC world service news podcast. It's much more global than the (ever depressing) US news. Not too much good news, but at least it's a break from the cretinous poison of the GOP.
 
Thanks for your sympathy, I'm sure that the OP now feels a lot better. Now you can go back to your day job of telling depressives to snap out of it, sufferers of PTSD that sh it happens and they should just move on, and the clinically obese to just eat less, fat lazy bastards.

Yes but he is right. If I was depressed or worrying to that extent, I would be jumping off a tall building.
 
Did you read the OP every 10 years bla bla bla, you sure you ain't gonna get cleaned up on the way to work in the morning.
 


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