flatpopely
Prog Rock/Moderator
And yet the community comments about what he did as an MP would support the 'nice bloke' moniker.
David Amess MP stabbed in Leigh-On-Sea
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clivem2
pfm Member
Also he was strong on animal rights. People are complex in their views, to judge someone strongly because your opinions differ says a lot about the critics. “Think as I do or you’re unworthy”. Hmm…
paulfromcamden
Baffled
I don't agree with a lot of his apparent views - his record on LGBT equality for example - but by all accounts he did his job representing his constituents, was liked by many of them and repeatedly re-elected.
I think I've only ever had a response once from my local MP. And that was a cut and paste job the party had given him to send out.
farfromthesun
pfm Member
Ponty
pfm Member
Indeed. You don’t get voted in for circa 40 years if you don’t reflect and look after the interests of your constituents. That many people will disagree with his politics is irrelevant.
By all accounts a true gent who will be a great loss to politics.
paulfromcamden
Baffled
Sabina Nessa was murdered a few streets from where we live. Obviously a very different case but it's unsettling and upsetting when something like this happens close to home.
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farfromthesun
pfm Member
Social Media is tying itself up in knots since the suspect is a British National, of Somali heritage. Not clear if he was born here or if he is an immigrant but there's a very obvious and substantial effort from dimwits to make this about foreign infiltration.
PaulMB
pfm Member
I agree. Just as the Norwegian who killed 77 young people was drunk with fascist ideology, and the recent Dane who killed 5 Norwegians with a bow and arrows was a convert to Islam, if this guy turns out to have murdered for reasons linked to radical Islam, then it is also the fault of radical Islam.
Islam was radicalised by which events ? Isn't it also the fault of those causing those events ?
Tony L
Administrator
An ideology largely promoted and funded by Saudi Arabia, which is maybe something this government should think long and hard about.
Seanm
pfm Member
Interestingly the Norwegian guy was drunk on a the racist ideology of, amongst others, British newspaper columnist Melanie Phillips, whose bonkers theories about, e.g., race replacement, BLM’s attempts to destroy white society and “radical Islam” are still being published by The Times and The Jewish Chronicle.
Tony L
Administrator
If it turns out to be radicalised Islam then Amess’s politics are irrelevant to his senseless and untimely death, he was just an easy target for an attention-seeking brainwashed religious nutter. No different to the random kids murdered at the Manchester Arena Ariana Grande gig etc. As such it is very different to Jo Cox’s murder which was at the hands of a far-right white nationalist who fundamentally opposed her liberal tolerance. That was unquestionably a political killing.
russel
./_dazed_and_confused
The Danish man had a history of mental health issues, most likely a bigger factor than a religious conversion.
Barrymagrec
pfm Member
Connected.
PaulMB
pfm Member
Yes, if you like. But you would have to follow that back through the centuries, to the invasion by Islam of half of Europe, all the Middle East and all north Africa, to the Crusades, to the centuries of empires and colonialism, in which there were not only European, but also Roman, Greek, Persian, Islamic, Russian, Chinese and Japanese empires and colonialism. More recently to the failure, and disillusionment, of secular socialist-nationalist pan-Arabism.
Thank you that summed it up very well indeed.