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Got any petrol or diesel?

OTOH who knew I might eke a sustained 42mpg from a 4litre petrol v8 auto for over 100 miles by watching OBD2 live data from the £15 eml327 dongle?? ...help keep it right in that small island of efficiency around 56mph...

I didn't, barely believed it - I might do now... it got me home, with no fuel light /10l to spare!


PS -yes, it was boring... but very effective! ;)
 
So, if it wasn't for Brexit, it wouldn't have happened?
It might still have happened, but it probably wouldn't have been as bad. That's the way with these things that are caused by more than one factor. After all, there is a shortage of drivers all over Europe, and every country has covid, but other countries aren't running out of commodities like us, and we're the ones who told foreign drivers they're unwelcome after 90 days. So I'll let you join the dots.
 
Very quickly, most petrol stations get a delivery every three days and without un-necessary stockpiling it will be back to normal within a matter of those three days.

The next supply chain to be effected is going to be meat supply, I’d go and buy sausages and your Christmas Turkey early… :p
I've already said that meat supply will be threatened this year. I know very well, and I produce the stuff.
 
As far as I can tell there's no shortage of commodities (communist oddities) in this country. Been on the M25 recently?
 
I heard today that it’s all down to Elon Musk paying tanker drivers to stay at home so more people buy his cars. I see the Mainstream Media aren’t reporting it so that means it’s true, doesn’t it?
 
Where did you hear that today? I didn't hear anything. Then again. I wasn't actually paying attention to it. Whatever it was.
 
Where did you hear that today? I didn't hear anything. Then again. I wasn't actually paying attention to it. Whatever it was.
It was from a work colleague. His friend had been told by someone in the pub that someone he had met had overheard someone in Tesco saying they had read it on Twitter (and once you mention Twitter it is obviously true, no matter how many generations of noise it has passed through.)
 
Ah. OK. But here's a thing. A) I don't work. B) I have no colleagues C) I have no friends [hard to understand that one, I know, but bear with me] D) I can't remember the last time I went into a public house [see previous answer] E) It's been over 10 years since I stepped foot in a supermarket (I have my own wonderful personal shopper that does all this for me (aka the wife - although I'm constantly shocked at the price of things - staple things, like tins of beans and tomatoes, especially)
F) I have never tweeted anything and really don't understand people who do and feel the need to do so.

But I get by.
 
Another £35 max limit fill up at another BP station this time in Headlingly - Leeds, that filled the tank. Lucky I was able to put enough the night before at another BP station in Manchester to even attempt the work trip to Leeds today. Another job dropped in this week so I'm now covered for the 3 days work I've got this week. I've also being driving quite slow - gotta make this stuff stretch as far as possible even if Boris says the situation is now easing. Well, he would say that wouldn't he - can't have the idiots panicking can we? Oh wait, too late.
 
How long till we have people nicking petrol out of cars? Lots of plastic fuel tanks these days so drilling one shouldn’t be an issue:(
 
I managed to fill up in Boston yesterday , Only a small queue , One on the pump one waiting then me , It was a small independent garage
 
We're 15 miles away from the nearest petrol station so it's not easy to go searching for fuel here (and if that one didn't have fuel it'd be a similar distance to the next petrol station, getting further from home each time).

My wife has to go back to Edinburgh as she's working (she's a teacher) tomorrow and Friday and while the car has enough fuel to get there it doesn't have enough to get back, so hopefully she'll manage to find petrol on the way. If not then her and the dog will need to wedge themselves into her SLK to get back here, as at least it has a full tank of fuel. Will be a bit of a squeeze with the 3 of us in it when we return to Edinburgh again at the weekend though!
 
Very quickly, most petrol stations get a delivery every three days and without un-necessary stockpiling it will be back to normal within a matter of those three days. ...
Yes - to the extent of about 8,000 UK fuel stations and about 3,500 tanker deliveries per day. But the panic buying is, IMHO, not going to subside instantly. I strongly suspect the "stock" of fuel in motor vehicles will continue to rise well above normal level for some time yet from ongoing "over-buying".

So, I think the system may take somewhat more than three days to stabilize. I hope I am being pessimistic, but the queues around here started on Friday morning and were still there yesterday - that's five days of it already.
 
Got £30 diesel in Winnersh near my hotel which got me to work in Andover and back home to Wirral late last night - kept the speed right down due to atrocious weather on M40 M42 M6Toll which meant 50+ mpg return.... tried a garage near Cheshire Oaks for another £30 worth but to no avail, then found the local Shell garage station had diesel - full tank will allow the planned trip to the Norfolk broads this weekend at least when hopefully things will have improved
 
For me, many on here might be exhibiting no better behaviour than the panic buyers being criticised. My understanding is that tanker driving is a specialism, amongst the elite of the large vehicle drivers and that it is different to the broader HGV driver shortage. Allegedly there is no shortage of tanker drivers and that the road haulage association is attempting to hold us to ransom and that if a panic were created at any time in recent years the chaos would be the same. The Govt’s announcement of the army on standby is perhaps to call their bluff and miraculously the shortage suddenly seems to be resolving itself.

I don’t know the truth of it but I hate knee jerk reactions and blaming whatever is the politics of the day and would love to see more informed posts. Tanker deliveries are a controlled process at the destinations and an 18 year old part timer can’t just accept it, deliveries don’t happen overnight I believe, instead they happen when authorised recipients are around.

I haven’t panic bought myself as I have assumed it will resolve within a few days, I’m ashamed to be part of the human race when I see the video clips of people fighting and how civilisation descends into primal interests whatever the shortage and however short the inconvenience. God help us when there are not enough dairy, pre-prepared, meat and so on at the shelves, looks like we’re all going veggie and prudent for a while and will it honestly do most of us much harm for a spot of privation.
 
Selfish arrogant bastards. They will be whining about Christmas shortages next. Well they voted for this shitshow, and queuing for fuel is the least of the problems; it just happens to directly inconvenience the stupid twats. A care home near me has closed because of staff shortages so 25 people need to be re-homed! It is inconceivable that this utter mess would be happening if idiot brexit hadn’t.
 
For me, many on here might be exhibiting no better behaviour than the panic buyers being criticised. My understanding is that tanker driving is a specialism, amongst the elite of the large vehicle drivers and that it is different to the broader HGV driver shortage. Allegedly there is no shortage of tanker drivers and that the road haulage association is attempting to hold us to ransom and that if a panic were created at any time in recent years the chaos would be the same. The Govt’s announcement of the army on standby is perhaps to call their bluff and miraculously the shortage suddenly seems to be resolving itself.

I don’t know the truth of it but I hate knee jerk reactions and blaming whatever is the politics of the day and would love to see more informed posts.

The petrol companies have said for many months now that the number of tanker drivers is becoming critical. To drive a tanker you need a LGV and ADR as a minimum and HGV Class 1 for larger vehicles. The shortage is caused by some drivers defecting to other driving jobs, Covid (illness and a lack of tests for new drivers), Brexit (foreign drivers no longer eligible to work) and the fact that the industry has poor pay and extremely poor conditions so fails to attract young people. These are not made up issues, they are the facts and the government has either caused these issues or known about them and done nothing for years as the problem has built. It is not a 'knee jerk reaction to politics if the day', but a nailed on fact that the government have ignored the growing issues with a head in the sand approach... and now they are reaping what they have sown. Personally I hope it gets a whole lot worse this winter so those that vote for the Tories take enough pain to think about where they put their X at the next election as this government are poison frankly!
 
I need fuel for work across the whole of the UK so have no qualms over keeping the 50 litre diesel tank near the 1/2 - 3/4 level
 


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