Robert
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PS Rega are Leak valve amp fans!
You can tell from their recent amp designs.
PS Rega are Leak valve amp fans!
It's a pity the Harbeth forum still remains the same as it did after all these years. Old habits die hard I guess. I used to post on the forum 11 or 12 years ago when I bought my first pair of Harbeth speakers (how time flies). At first it was all rosy but things turned ugly after a while when certain topics were discussed. I recall seeing the moderator(s) there practising an iron first approach by attacking members in a rude and condescending manner. Alan Shaw was more discreet in his style but he had his own ways of shooting down ideas that did not coincide with his own. FWIW you are not the first person who feels the same about Mr Shaw as there are others who speak about his arrogance. Some think that Harbeth's success may have contributed to the egoistic ways of the group.I concur with your assessment of the Harbeth forum. I joined and subsequently found it to be an extremely insular echo chamber. Any disagreement from the opinion of its moderators and Alan Shaw himself (who fully participates in the forum) is met with a tsunami of condescending attacks. I'm a published scientist and data analyst (as well as Harbeth speaker ownder) and was attempting to discuss their "citizen scientist" methodology and was drawn and quartered. Legitimate questions and comments that differed from the moderators and Mr. Shaw were either violently attacked or simply did not pass through the moderators filter to be posted. I found Alan Shaw himself to extremely arrogant and incapable of rational discourse. Love the speakers, but my experience with the Harbeth forum was incredibly negative.
Don't think I've seen any mention of Lenco Heaven yet on this thread (does it count as a manufacturer forum?).
Certainly one of the friendliest hi-fi forums around and an astonishing level of knowledge for stuff like older cartridges, obscure valve amps etc.
It's a pity the Harbeth forum still remains the same as it did after all these years.
Yes, I'm a big fan of Lenco Heaven.
Don't think I've seen any mention of Lenco Heaven yet on this thread (does it count as a manufacturer forum?).
The early Naim forum was interesting but a lot has evolved since then i think.
I think it's a big risk for manufacturers to get personally involved in forums. It's such a volatile and unforgiving environment it's too easy for reputations to get damaged.
It's a pity the Harbeth forum still remains the same as it did after all these years. Old habits die hard I guess. I used to post on the forum 11 or 12 years ago when I bought my first pair of Harbeth speakers (how time flies). At first it was all rosy but things turned ugly after a while when certain topics were discussed. I recall seeing the moderator(s) there practising an iron first approach by attacking members in a rude and condescending manner. Alan Shaw was more discreet in his style but he had his own ways of shooting down ideas that did not coincide with his own. FWIW you are not the first person who feels the same about Mr Shaw as there are others who speak about his arrogance. Some think that Harbeth's success may have contributed to the egoistic ways of the group.
Back in the day, there were several members or cohorts on the HUG who joined in the attacks of members who did not share the same beliefs or values that the clan preaches. It's a tight-knit community as those who opposed the doctrines were cast aside like an unwanted child. AS used to despise the chat on fancy wires or high grade terminals and amplifiers of all sorts but I see he has changed a little and started to endorse Hegel amps for his speakers. Nevertheless, some things remain unchanged..
The thing that makes me chuckle is many Harbeths have fancy WBT-style plugs, very expensive internal wiring, bi-wiring etc, i.e. this wasn’t a crusade Alan Shaw was prepared to die for!
The thing that makes me chuckle is many Harbeths have fancy WBT-style plugs, very expensive internal wiring, bi-wiring etc, i.e. this wasn’t a crusade Alan Shaw was prepared to die for!